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Rambo 07-06-2014 07:56 PM

ticket for forgetting my fishing license NPH
 
Start my day packing n getting stuff ready for fishing. Drop the baby off at my mom by 6am and finally got on the water by 8am. Loading the PA14 is always hard not having enough gears and with all that space you want to bring everything to prepare your day for any species.

Well I got out to the water and my bait tank battery isn't charge at all even when I left it plugging all night. Now my fish finder is acting up, and wouldnt turn due to some poor connection with the cable. So I was like ok, don't need it that much since my buddies had fish finders and bait tank I'm still cool. It was hard making bait and nothing was really biting the whole day. So I drop a live mackerel and troll near the bait barge while DFG approach me.

They then ask for my fishing license and I look at my center storage and said "shit i must have left it in my car." I asked, can i go get since my car is near? They said nope, and bam my rod gets a bite and the DFG said to reel it in. What do you know a legal halibut. Since I don't have my license on me, they released my halibut, and handed me a ticket. :mad:

Mad n frustrated, but they doing a good job keeping everyone on check. So I rush over and got to my car and grabbed my fishing license to try for another halibut. But no luck. The one day I forget my fishing license I get cited. And DFG looks at me and say I'm sure you have your license since your kayak looks expensive and with all them gears :D but since you don't have it on you laws are laws. Can't argue, so I signed and said have a good day!

dorado50 07-06-2014 08:16 PM

the bright side....you didn't leave the baby in the car!

jorluivil 07-06-2014 08:24 PM

My license is vacuum sealed
Its in the center hatch of my PA
In the mesh pocket that is mounted right under the door
In a place Where I'll never forget it

wiredantz 07-06-2014 08:33 PM

They are a bunch of zealots, can't believe they cited you.

Jaysuuun 07-06-2014 09:57 PM

Sucks they issued you a ticket. Back when licenses were carbon copies, I used to keep the copy in my wallet. It saved my ass from a citation one time when I forgot my license while surf fishing malibu. DFG said it wasn't technically a license but it was proof that I had one so she cut me a break.

BTW I wish the DFG can find out if you have a fishing license by running your drivers license. Don't they swipe that info in when you purchase one?

Cadillyak 07-06-2014 10:20 PM

So I know not having a fishing license vs. not having one on you are totally different and obviously the charges will end up being different. How much will that mistake cost u. I have left my license at home, before but have always opted to turn around and go get it. I'm just curious as to how much not having your license on u will end up costing.

Sucks about the legal. If u wouldn't have gotten approached, that butt would have never bit.

Jkfish136 07-06-2014 10:33 PM

Fight
 
You should go to court and fight it especially you have a lic. They can look it up with your driver lic. Two years ago I got a $860 ticket up in big bear for fishing with no lic. The officer try to look for my lic. By my driver lic. But couldn't find one because I forgot to buy one. I took a day of work drove up to big bear the judge dismissed the ticket and I pay $25 processing fee. Good luck.

StinkyMatt 07-06-2014 10:46 PM

You break the law...pay the fine.


Fighting a legit ticket.........I dunno.:(




the guy took it like a man......like he said they are just doing their job.

Rambo 07-06-2014 10:58 PM

It's a $25 dollar correction fee plus my time waiting in court for dismissal after the judge see's my fishing license. So it's a waste of my day.

One thing I found out, DFG says, picture on your phone will not save your butt from a ticket. Digital copy (PDF version) if order online will not save your butt from a ticket also. Only the physical printed license is valid.

As of now I dont see why the DFG can just carry a scanner to scan your driver license since they charge all this crazy fees. Im sure they have the funding.

jorluivil 07-06-2014 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo (Post 199381)
It's a $25 dollar correction fee plus my time waiting in court for dismissal after the judge see's my fishing license. So it's a waste of my day.

One thing I found out, DFG says, picture on your phone will not save your butt from a ticket. Digital copy (PDF version) if order online will not save your butt from a ticket also. Only the physical printed license is valid.

As of now I dont see why the DFG can just carry a scanner to scan your driver license since they charge all this crazy fees. Im sure they have the funding.

$25 for wasting your time?

How much should the DFG get paid for having their time wasted?

suck it dude.

You forgot your license.

You got a ticket.

Pay the fine.

Don't do it again.

bubblehide 07-06-2014 11:35 PM

The DFW officer was either not completely honest with you, or ill informed of the laws he/she is sworn to enforce; or simply knew from your position on the water that the following did not apply to you. There is an exception in the law, intended fro divers, but it applies to everyone recreational fishing. The law states that if you are fishing, and within a certain distance from your car/license, you are legal. unfortunately, I do not recall the specific distance. If you happened to be beyond the specified distance, you are guilty as charged. Obviously, it is much easier to simply pay the fine than fight the ticket, as that will generally take at least 2 trips to the court house; and your still out a halibut.

Easy mistake to make, sorry to here it happened.

jorluivil 07-07-2014 12:08 AM

Q: Do I have to wear my fishing license?

A: No. As of March 1, 2010, anglers no longer have to display their sport fishing license on their outer clothing above the waist. However, their sport fishing license must be in their immediate possession while fishing, except when diving as provided inXFish and Game Code Section 7145

I would have to assume that 'immediate' doesn't mean...........

DFG officer: can I please see your license?

kayaker: It's in my car, gonna go get it. be right back.


Insert jeopardy theme song now

alanw 07-07-2014 12:09 AM

A DFG warden up in Northern Cali told me it could be up to $750 fine plus they can confiscate all of your fishing gear if caught without a license... they can even confiscate your boat. I haven't heard of anything that extreme down here but I think it's minimum $100 (plus any local fees) and reduced to $25 if you show proof of license in court.

I wish they had the ability to just run your DL since everything is electronic nowadays anyway. I'd pay an extra $0.05 so they could have funds for scanners.

Keep it in your fishing gear, keep it in your wallet, it's not worth forgetting it.

easyday 07-07-2014 12:42 AM

Every year when I get my fishing license, I get the actual license then I immediately buy 2 more duplicate copies. One in my truck, one in my wallet, one in my life vest. That way ill always have at least one on me and if I lose one I already have 2 backups. its funny to see them out and about. DFG could save so much of their time by hanging out on the pier, while I was fishing for macks for catfish the other night down in Newport. I saw about 50 violations, and had to correct numerous people telling them the fish they were keeping was illegal....

YakDout 07-07-2014 03:59 AM

We all know the real reason that fishing licenses are not connected to DL right?





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bubblehide 07-07-2014 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 199386)
Q: Do I have to wear my fishing license?

A: No. As of March 1, 2010, anglers no longer have to display their sport fishing license on their outer clothing above the waist. However, their sport fishing license must be in their immediate possession while fishing, except when diving as provided inXFish and Game Code Section 7145

I would have to assume that 'immediate' doesn't mean...........

DFG officer: can I please see your license?

kayaker: It's in my car, gonna go get it. be right back.


Insert jeopardy theme song now


Okay, either my memory is fallible (no it's not Alzheimers, yet), or they revised the regs. either way, I stand corrected.

Silbaugh4liberty 07-07-2014 05:49 AM

Damn, what ass holes. I saw them checking a bunch of people in skiffs. Most those people in those skiffs don't know spotted bass from Halibut, let alone the regulations. I was just south of the barge, but they never came to check mine.

jruiz 07-07-2014 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jkfish136 (Post 199379)
You should go to court and fight it especially you have a lic. They can look it up with your driver lic. Two years ago I got a $860 ticket up in big bear for fishing with no lic. The officer try to look for my lic. By my driver lic. But couldn't find one because I forgot to buy one. I took a day of work drove up to big bear the judge dismissed the ticket and I pay $25 processing fee. Good luck.

This is great advice. Fish without a license then when you get checked say I forgot it but I should be in the system. Waste the officers time, the judges time, then drove home feeling like a king since you just screwed the system.

oneyedeer 07-07-2014 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Silbaugh4liberty (Post 199398)
Damn, what ass holes. I saw them checking a bunch of people in skiffs. Most those people in those skiffs don't know spotted bass from Halibut, let alone the regulations. I was just south of the barge, but they never came to check mine.

Lol suks when they have to do their job

JDW 07-07-2014 08:12 AM

+1 agree!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YakDout (Post 199396)
We all know the real reason that fishing licenses are not connected to DL right?


$$$$


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Sir, you are correct!


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