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PAL 10-20-2009 01:55 PM

MLPA meeting highlights / lowlights in real time
 
I'm posting real time updates from the meeting in real time via Facebook. There might be a talking point or two here. Follow it here: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/p...00&ref=profile

PAL 10-20-2009 03:12 PM

Oops forgot to disable a privacy setting. Those posts should be available to everyone now. Sorry about that. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...61000&ref=name

JoeBeck 10-20-2009 04:08 PM

Thanks for all your work Paul and keeping us updated through your facebook page. :you_rock:

PAL 10-21-2009 09:52 AM

At it again today.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pr...61000&ref=name

If you're following the posts, ok, but why aren't you at the meeting? :confused:

For those who really can't join us today, send us all your well wishes. We need them.


PAL 10-22-2009 10:07 AM

One more time. Our fates will be decided in the next few hours: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/pr...61000&ref=name

Billy V 10-22-2009 10:10 AM

What is the Cal Span Link to View the Meeting ??

-I have one up on the computer, but is not broadcasting Yet...Have they started yet ?

I just got off the Phone with Cal-Span -They are having trouble with the Vid link- and the Crew on location is NOT answering their phones !

The meeting started 23 minutes ago and still no Vid link.

tylerdurden 10-22-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy V (Post 46092)
What is the Cal Span Link to View the Meeting ??

-I have one up on the computer, but is not broadcasting Yet...Have they started yet ?

I just got off the Phone with Cal-Span -They are having trouble with the Vid link- and the Crew on location is NOT answering their phones !

The meeting started 23 minutes ago and still no Vid link.

the fun never ends. This meetings av crew was bad. They did such a good job at all the other meetings.

Billy V 10-22-2009 10:35 AM

Game ON Right Now.

11:35 am

JoeBeck 10-22-2009 10:49 AM

Whats the link?

JoeBeck 10-22-2009 10:51 AM

Found it
http://www.cal-span.org/

tylerdurden 10-22-2009 11:23 AM

strap on your seat belts :eek:

Billy V 10-22-2009 11:34 AM

Meg From the looks of it.
(Things are going to be Wild Today.)
Combative - Aggressive - Argumentative - Over Opinionated- and - Wrong

Corey 10-22-2009 11:55 AM

According to Paul's facebook, a motion passed to send all 3 proposals forward to the DFG. Ugggh.:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: :puke:

Billy V 10-22-2009 12:00 PM

Yes- That was the 1 st. indication that nothing will get finalized Today.

The 2nd indication is Meg's Fury. Combative, Argumentative, Aggressive, Over Opinionated, and Wrong-As it is Meet by BTRF Greg-and Bill.

The 3rd is the Time Constrains for today.
Late checkout- flight reservations- etc.
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add to that the commentary of of the rsg.
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BTW Garth Murphy just Told Another LIE about deep Rock ! The guy just won't stop. Ignorant of the documented deep rock in Delmar.

tylerdurden 10-22-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey (Post 46105)
According to Paul's facebook, a motion passed to send all 3 proposals forward to the DFG. Ugggh.:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: :puke:


Yay. We get to do this again at the DFG meeting on December 10th in the LA area :luxhello::grouphug:

Is that the BRTF version of passing the buck and making it someone elses problem? or showing their division?

JoeBeck 10-22-2009 12:10 PM

Why are they discussing each section now if they are passing the 3 maps along?

Billy V 10-22-2009 12:12 PM

Paul is Killing it right Now.
-He is on his game-

JoeBeck 10-22-2009 12:25 PM

Good job Paul. Can't figure out how to comment on your Facebook page.

They kind of lost me with the fishing data.

dsafety 10-22-2009 12:31 PM

I am watching this thing online and am very confused. If the BRTF is not going to decide anything, why is the meeting still going on and what are they talking about?

Just a thought, if this thing is getting passed on to DFG and DFG does not have the funding to enforce any of these regulations, what is the point? Does anyone have a feeling for where this is headed?

Bob

Holy Mackerel 10-22-2009 12:42 PM

WTF!

Billy V 10-22-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurden (Post 46109)
Yay. We get to do this again at the DFG meeting on December 10th in the LA area :luxhello::grouphug:

Is that the BRTF version of passing the buck and making it someone elses problem? or showing their division?

I guess that 18 Million Dollar donation from Packard was not enough to Buy all 3 MLPA regions of Kalifornia.

Tman 10-22-2009 01:02 PM

Wow...
 
I am so glad my son and I had a chance to partake in this most unbiased process and got to truly see the inner workings of bureaucracy...

Incredible. To think after everyone's hard work we still are gonna end up getting a :the_finger: after all is said and done.

Like Tyler said,

Yay, we get to do it again in December....should we bus some kids in?

tylerdurden 10-22-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tman (Post 46122)
I am so glad my son and I had a chance to partake in this most unbiased process and got to truly see the inner workings of bureaucracy...

Incredible. To think after everyone's hard work we still are gonna end up getting a :the_finger: after all is said and done.

Like Tyler said,

Yay, we get to do it again in December....should we bus some kids in?

The December repeat is just my read of the situation based on my limited knowledge and viewing of todays meeting.

Billy V 10-22-2009 01:25 PM

More Punishment- Sad Reality TV is Back Online-
but not from the Male BTFR

Holy Mackerel 10-22-2009 01:27 PM

post updates, I can't get facebook, or streaming media at work!

PAL 10-22-2009 02:10 PM

Guys, there's every chance they'll close this thing down today. That's if they don't deadlock 2-2.

They were ALWAYS going to forward all reasonable proposals. Thing is, the Commission has always rubber stamped the preferred alternative. The others are mostly there to fulfill red tape requirements for CA's environmental impact report laws, which require consideration of alternatives.

So far this is just debate / discussion. There are no decisions yet, but they are making A and B alternatives for each geography. Stay tuned.

Billy V 10-22-2009 02:14 PM

San Diego ON NOW !!!

WATCH IT, or MISS IT.

Holy Mackerel 10-22-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy V (Post 46133)
San Diego ON NOW !!!

Damn, keep the updates coming!!!! :bigear:

Billy V 10-22-2009 02:24 PM

They cut the Video Link !

bender0240 10-22-2009 02:36 PM

Holy Mac:

(From Pau'ls blog)
La Jolla is up. A is south La Jolla and Swamis, existing Scripps. B is the same plus an expanded Scripps and the frickin' pier and our bait


Steven GreenInteresting that garth mentioned still allowing bait to be caught and kayak hook and line fishing north of the pier

Paul LebowitzI'll get them to clarify

tylerdurden 10-22-2009 02:42 PM

I missed that whole exchange. The damn feed just cut out.

JoeBeck 10-22-2009 02:44 PM

Yep me too!

Update from Paul
Paul Lebowitz South La Jolla is gone, gone, gone. Pt Loma is in the clear. I think we'll get stuck with an expanded Scripps MPA, pushed out as far as the point. It sounds as if we'll keep our bait and maybe even pelagics north of the pier. I'll try to find out in the next bit of downtime.

Holy Mackerel 10-22-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bender0240 (Post 46136)
Holy Mac:

(From Pau'ls blog)
La Jolla is up. A is south La Jolla and Swamis, existing Scripps. B is the same plus an expanded Scripps and the frickin' pier and our bait


Steven GreenInteresting that garth mentioned still allowing bait to be caught and kayak hook and line fishing north of the pier

Paul LebowitzI'll get them to clarify

Thank you, I hope we kayakers get special consideration for North of Scripps!

keep the updates coming!

rastrev 10-22-2009 02:57 PM

Looks like they could give a #$% what we asked for yesterday. South LJ is the main focus of both sides in SD County.

A couple "positives";

Right before they went on break there was an argument made for pelagics allowed in water deeper than 50m in South LJ. I did not hear any complaints.

Also, there is an attempt to make the South LJ SMR smaller since the Swami's SMCA meets the size and spacing guidlines, even heard one of the guys on the BRTF speaking in favor of a smaller than 9 square mile SMR in LJ. Keep you fingers crossed

bender0240 10-22-2009 02:57 PM

What a disaster

dsafety 10-22-2009 02:58 PM

Hey Paul,

If you are monitoring, please correct the woman who claimed that kayaks can launch from the cove. No floating devices are allowed there. Other than Big Rock near Windansea there are no usable launches at the La Jolla rock beaches. Would closing South LJ mean that launches would be prohibited there?

Dare we hope that we may come out of this with somewhere we can still fish in LJ? The fact that they are considering allowing the catching of bait at the pier is a hopeful sign.

Keep your reports coming.

Bob

Grego 10-22-2009 03:01 PM

I think the West End of Catalina is clear!...yeah!! Rocky Point? we aren't getting updates on BT, so PAUL don't skip over updating Rocky Point PV info here.

JoeBeck 10-22-2009 03:03 PM

Problem is your going to have a mass of people all fishing one area in LJ and us who fish point loma will no longer have it to ourselves :mad:

JoeBeck 10-22-2009 03:06 PM

Yes looks like west end is clear but long point boat in camping is done.

Billy V 10-22-2009 03:09 PM

As Per Cal Span...

"The internet Feed in Long Beach is OUT, and they are unable to broadcast from that location"
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Go grab yourself some Maloxx, or RollAids.


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