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lamb 01-15-2009 01:04 AM

Malibu Stealth 14 and Stealth 12 out for a test ride?
 
Hell yeah.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...-stealth12.jpg

Brent calls me all stoked… Malibu Stealth 12 and Stealth 14 prototypes arrived in the shop. He has them all rigged up, bait tanks wired up and all.

Gameplan: take them out for a ride in the Big Bay and fish for halibut. We were going to try Rick Da Masta Goose’s bounce ball rigs (more on that later), fire up the live wells, check out how they do, go to the bait barge and load up on some live bait. Look for the flat kind and see how the new yaks feel.

Beautiful calm day in San Diego Bay.

We got to sniff around Stealth 12 and Stealth 14 on the beach, checking out all the features.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...beach-shot.jpg

Stealth 14 seems like XFactor hull with radically redesigned deck, especially the space right in front of you.

Stealth 12 is very similar - Stealth 14 minus the back hatch and 2 ft shorter.

Both kayaks have the new bait tank / livewell built right in the hull, in the space front of the seat. It’s great to see fishing kayak manufacturers designing their boats with live bait on their mind.

OEX guys did great job plumbing it; they threw in water intake control valve. Killer, it lets you adjust how much water flows in. You can adjust the flow for different bait and different load.

The new deck layout on both boats has got to get your attention…

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...a/589/deck.jpg

Left hatch opens up to give you access under the hood, to your live-well pump and all the plumbing.

The hull is designed with recessed area for bait pump installation, so the surface of the pump is flush with the bottom of the kayak. That reduces the drag and protects the pump. There's a screen on the pump that ought to keep the kelp and eelgrass out.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...ait-intake.jpg

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...-intake-12.jpg

Right hatch is a tackle box – pretty cool and handy. I stored my pliers, hooks, line and picked out a bunch of lures to play with.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...ckle-hatch.jpg

Another nice touch – both seat scupper holes now have the drain plugs, giving you option to keep them open or close them completely. I can see that being handy for fishing in different type waters.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...upper-plug.jpg

Two very pretty kayaks, no doubt.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...h-14-beach.jpg

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...h-12-beach.jpg

Gator hatch, rod holders, cup holder, the standard stuff...

Bow and stern are similar to xFactor, at least it seemed to me. Keep in mind, I’m an eXtreme guy. ;)

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...lth-14-bow.jpg

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...h-14-stern.jpg

Brent brought to my attention that lower end of the back hatch has been raised up a bit, to keep it above the water level for bigger bodies on board.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...back-hatch.jpg

Not surprisingly, both Stealth 12 and Stealth 14 felt very stable.

They paddled easily through the glassy bay.

Comfortable fishing platforms.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...h-12-brent.jpg

I started dragging Rick’s bounce ball rig with 1lbs ball. 5 mins into it, a little halibut hangs himself on a hootchie:

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...t-bouncing.jpg

Stoked!

Not that Masta DaGoose’s halibut rigs needed any proof that they work, what we were not sure was whether they could be fished with from a kayak. Rick has got halibut rigs figured out, and he recently started www.bestofbiggame.com where he makes his rigs available. We’re happy that OEX & www.kayakfishingsupplies.com will be carrying Rick’s bounce ball rigs in stock as well! They are slightly modified specifically for kayak fishermen. For all of you that may not know him - Rick DaGoose is one of the best SoCal halibut fisherman and awesome guy. His rigs are the first class quality craftsmanship, and the best part – THEY WORK! If you’re serious about halibut fishing, give these bounce ball rigs a try.

We made it to the barge and loaded up on some sardines.

They seemed pretty happy.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...happy-bait.jpg

Bait tank hatch was easy to open and close. The seal worked pretty good. The water was draining smoothly right down the scupper holes. Adjustable intake valve was pretty handy to control the level of water flowing in.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...-12-intake.jpg

A clear 6” screw-on round hatch in the middle makes it easy to keep an eye on the bait. It enables you to reach for the bait without popping the whole main big hatch open:

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...t-tank-cap.jpg

All in all, I think I liked the built in tank! :)

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...ppy-bait-2.jpg

Dropped a healthy sardine down to the bottom while I was taking the pictures of the tank.

The tip of my rod soon starts bouncing…

Keeper (or almost a keeper?) halibut sings in. :luxhello:

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...ak-halibut.jpg

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...14_halibut.jpg

Let her go in exchange for a promise that she will find me fishing at La Jolla in WCW season 2029, and make whatever I offer that day her last meal.

Picked up another short halibut on a bounce ball on my way back; it shook off the hook before I got to take a pic.

Fun day on the water trying out some new yaks from the Malibu house. :cheers1:

dorf 01-15-2009 04:44 AM

Very nice!
Question:
How do the hatches (Left andf right) work out that are under your legs?
Based on the pictures you attached the tackel box on the right might not be in the best location.
Other than that they look great.
Thanks for sharing.

j mo 01-15-2009 05:54 AM

Bait tank
 
you said "all in all" i liked the bait tank. can you give a comparison vs. the kayatank and traditional 5 gal model?

thx

Matt 01-15-2009 06:39 AM

Can't wait to try one, those things look bad ass!!!

landwhale 01-15-2009 07:17 AM

Really looking forward to paddling one of the these also.

anjcomp 01-15-2009 07:19 AM

Look good, How about pricing:)????

lamb 01-15-2009 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorf (Post 32763)
Very nice!
Question:
How do the hatches (Left andf right) work out that are under your legs?
Based on the pictures you attached the tackel box on the right might not be in the best location.
Other than that they look great.
Thanks for sharing.

I didn't notice any difficulties. Those side hatches are small and pop open on the side - I don't think I even had to throw my legs over the sides to reach in... I probably just did it to take a cleaner picture.


Quote:

Originally Posted by j mo (Post 32764)
you said "all in all" i liked the bait tank. can you give a comparison vs. the kayatank and traditional 5 gal model?

thx

I really dig the fact we're starting to see fishing kayaks with built in live-well. Personally, I like any tank that will keep my bait alive and healthy - this one passed that test. It seems well made, it's part of the hull - obvious advantage is you can never loose it or forget it (been there). If you're not using it, it doubles as a nice easily accessible extra storage. Even without plumbing/pump, you unscrew the drain plug and it will fill up with water up until 1/2 way, to the water level. I think guys on the East Coast will like that.

Disadvantage compared to KayakTank - I'd say this one is likely smaller (capacity wise). It is likely heavier too.

But hey, I'm a KayaTank guy. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by anjcomp (Post 32768)
Look good, How about pricing:)????

Not sure about the S-12 - I see S-14 "pre-listed" on Kayak Fishing Supplies:

http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/...-dsh-14/Detail

I'd say give your local OEX a call. ;)

Iceman 01-15-2009 08:09 AM

Very thorough Adi and looks like you took Brent's money that morning:D

I heard $999 on the Stealth 12..........but don't quote me on that.

OEX 01-15-2009 08:11 AM

Thanks for the report Adi.

Prices on the new Stealths are:

Stealth 12

999.00 Including Plumbing/ pump kit for live well. With installation and wiring.


Stealth 14


1299.00 Including Plumbing/ pump kit for live well. With installation and wiring.

OEX Point Loma currently has each model. Feel free to come down and take a look.

OEX Point Loma
1453 Rosecrans St
San Diego 92106
619-758-9531

Flyfisher70 01-15-2009 08:12 AM

I was just about to purchase the X-13 and now I'm just going to have to hold off and get the Stealth-14. Looks like an awesome kayak. Malibu Kayaks has really done good with the Stealths. Thanks for sharing all the great information.

THE DARKHORSE 01-15-2009 09:51 AM

Hmmm...
 
If I ever go back to the darkside (paddling a kayak), I'm getting a Stealth 14.

lambadmin 01-15-2009 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE (Post 32776)
If I ever go back to the darkside (paddling a kayak), I'm getting a Stealth 14.

LOL... :D

I was wondering... With your style of fishing, lots of looking out and flunking iron, xFactor hull must have felt really comfy. Do you feel you had to trade any of that stability for the pedal power you got with Hobie?

Corey 01-15-2009 10:58 AM

Thanks for the review, Adi. I can't wait until my Stealth 14 comes in!

THE DARKHORSE 01-15-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambadmin (Post 32777)
LOL... :D

I was wondering... With your style of fishing, lots of looking out and flunking iron, xFactor hull must have felt really comfy. Do you feel you had to trade any of that stability for the pedal power you got with Hobie?

With my opportunity to use whatever Hobie craft I want, I'm able to get the best of both worlds. For the straight up sight-fishing on my knees, looking for fish that aren't even making a ripple on the surface...the stealth 14 or X-factor are perfect (so is a Hobie Outback). You don't need to paddle fast in these situations, the fish are moving less than 1 mph, and stability is priority number one...being comfortable on your knees and the ability to cast a 9'+ jig-stick as hard as you can without worrying about swimming with your cell phone :D. I've landed many Yellowtail on the X-factor, while not only casting on my knees, but fighting and landing them while still on my knees (more stability than you know what to do with). You will have this same type of stability with a Hobie Outback (more stability than you know what to do with). Obviously with stability you have to trade speed, and that speed is addictive when chasing fish during surface bites that don't require being on your knees (birds and visible boils)...addictive because without a doubt you will catch more of these fish if you can take advantage of quick "up and down" opportunities. The opportunity to start moving in another direction at full speed, after I just made a long cast in the wrong direction to some fish that just sank out :doh: , something that would be hard for me to give up now. A good cast with the long rod is going to be over 80 turns of the handle using a Torium 20, and even winding as fast as you can before you can put your rod in the holder, pick up that paddle, turn around and sprint to that school foaming 200 yards behind you takes precious time...and this is a game of seconds.

I'm in no way saying the pedal is the only way to go, different strokes for different folks :D. For someone that is interested in sight fishing the Stealth 14 is going to be hard to beat. Again, if I wasn't already addicted to the speed of the Mirage Drive, this would be my next kayak.

DESTROYER 01-15-2009 02:53 PM

Nice write up Adi! I love it when kayak manufactures keep pushing each other to create better products. Looks like a nice yak. The storage compartments are my favorite part. Can't wait to see the Malibu crew on their 14's camoed out:cheers1:.

TL-Matt

steamroll 01-15-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyfisher70 (Post 32772)
I was just about to purchase the X-13 and now I'm just going to have to hold off and get the Stealth-14. Looks like an awesome kayak. Malibu Kayaks has really done good with the Stealths. Thanks for sharing all the great information.

If you like the X-13, you should check out the Stealth 12 instead. The 12 is sleeker and closer to the X-13. The 14's hull is identical the X-factor.

nmbrinkman 01-15-2009 03:19 PM

When I get another kayak... That will be hard pressed to be knocked off the top of my list...

MKNOTT 01-15-2009 07:43 PM

I stopped by the shop and checked them out last week and cant wait to try one. I was wondering from Andy's post with pics a few weeks ago about the underside of the stowage areas and rod stowage. You can still stow your rods for big surf days with the compartments. The open too the hull side obviously works and the sealed compartment side gives you enough bottom clearance room to slide the tips back. While I was sitting in the boat on the lawn like a little kid waiting for a stranger to put a quarter in the horsey ride in front of Kmart I also realized how much easier it is to open the hinged compartments. No more undoing hatch covers, moving them out of the way and then reseating them and reclamping. That is worth alot right there.

MKNOTT

Soo uhhh,,, can I borow one.

ElectroMike 01-15-2009 08:34 PM

Dady Like!

Slay Rider 01-16-2009 02:22 AM

The evolution continues. Nicely done.

red sled 01-16-2009 08:15 AM

Thank you for the review and pictures.

Can you share more information on bounce ball fishing technique?

Flyfisher70 01-16-2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steamroll (Post 32797)
If you like the X-13, you should check out the Stealth 12 instead. The 12 is sleeker and closer to the X-13. The 14's hull is identical the X-factor.

I think I've just been sold on the sleeker hull design of the Stealth 12. Does anyone know when I would be able to purchase one, What Date?

Thanks

Dan 01-16-2009 06:42 PM

cool post Adi. Those are nice looking boats fo sho.

DaGoose 01-16-2009 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red sled (Post 32828)
Thank you for the review and pictures.

Can you share more information on bounce ball fishing technique?

Red Sled,

All I can say is just do it..........slow trolling the bottom in stealth mode will whack the flatties. And you don't need bait. There's some good info out there but most is a retread of folks that don't do it much.

Will gladly help out however possible.

My website is www.bestofbiggame.com.

Tight Lines,

Rick

sdcityboy 01-16-2009 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lamb (Post 32761)
Hell yeah.
Gameplan: take them out for a ride in the Big Bay and fish for halibut., go to the bait barge and load up on some live bait. :cheers1:


baitbarge is selling to kayaks again? man, am i out of the loop!
Oh, and cool yaks!

riken19 01-16-2009 08:44 PM

Went by OEX today to check the Stealth's out in person. From what I can tell the 14 looks like they took a cheese grader and took off the top deck of the x-factor and replaced it with their upgrades. (side hatches, roto molded livewell,etc) I especially liked the rear hatch now that it has been raised up an inch or so. Should keep water seepage out for bigger guys like me. The angle was not changed just brought up so the drop in tank still fits. Wow two livewell options! The 12 is nice as well but I put my deposit down on a Blue 14.:cheers1:

trob 01-18-2009 08:26 PM

Looks great Brent!

Rolo 01-19-2009 08:19 AM

The review mention that the bait tank hatch seal worked pretty good. Do you think this seal would be water tight if the space was used for dry storage? Does the seal need to be fine tuned? Anyway.. great review and great looking yaks! This has got the wheels turning in my head. How do you hide a 14 foot kayak so your wife doesn't know you bought another yak?

Rolo

anjcomp 01-19-2009 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolo (Post 32914)
The review mention that the bait tank hatch seal worked pretty good. Do you think this seal would be water tight if the space was used for dry storage? Does the seal need to be fine tuned? Anyway.. great review and great looking yaks! This has got the wheels turning in my head. How do you hide a 14 foot kayak so your wife doesn't know you bought another yak?

Rolo

If you can hide then lie, Just won from BWE tourney :p:cheers1:

Siebler 01-19-2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolo (Post 32914)
The review mention that the bait tank hatch seal worked pretty good. Do you think this seal would be water tight if the space was used for dry storage? Does the seal need to be fine tuned?

Rolo



Overall it is pretty watertight. The problem is that it is only held down on the 2 ends, there are no latches on the sides of the hatch cover.

I just wouldnt put anything in there that would be broken if it got wet. But you want to do this with any hatch. Always use Dry Boxes or Bags when something MUST stay 100% dry.

lamb 01-19-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red sled (Post 32828)
Thank you for the review and pictures.

Can you share more information on bounce ball fishing technique?

Masta Da Goose has said it the best - ball bouncing is simply slow trolling the lower water column. It is mostly done with the heavy led ball, 1lbs +, depending on the depth, or a current. You then may have dodger (not a flasher, ask Rick :)) to give proper irresistible action to your favorite artificial lure (or live bait). You may not have the dodger at all, in the past I've been mostly doing it without a dodger (I would quickly get frustrated with the tangles). I believe there's something to be said about that thump of a led ball, ringing dinner bell for halibut. I'll try to write up some more about ball bouncing as I get more time to actually do it, hopefully hang some brown.

Don't miss Rick's article - http://www.bestofbiggame.com/BounceballTips.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolo (Post 32914)
The review mention that the bait tank hatch seal worked pretty good. Do you think this seal would be water tight if the space was used for dry storage? Does the seal need to be fine tuned? Anyway.. great review and great looking yaks! This has got the wheels turning in my head. How do you hide a 14 foot kayak so your wife doesn't know you bought another yak?

Rolo

The hatch really seemed to seal pretty good. I had the tank full of water and bait, and I was intentionally rocking the boat to see if the water would be leaking on the sides. You ought to be able to use it for a dry storage, but I would still keep the water sensitive stuff in the dry bag, just like you would do in any other kayak hatch.

BTW, this was my catch that day... :)

full moon + high tides = back bay clean up, all sorts of crap floating.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...526/trash1.jpg

SeaDog 01-19-2009 04:15 PM

Quote:

BTW, this was my catch that day... :)

full moon + high tides = back bay clean up, all sorts of crap floating.

Well done!! :)

Iceman 01-23-2009 12:37 PM

I picked up my first Stealth 14 yesterday from Malibu Kayaks for OEX Sunset Beach and am rigging inside today because of the rain. Here is a view of the pump set up from inside the hull.

Want to see one up close, stop on by. Next week I hope to have the Stealth 12 as well.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...0/IMG_1490.JPG

Holy Mackerel 01-23-2009 12:59 PM

That is a NICE thru hull design, I like it, no mas dragging around that bilge pump, snagging kelp, etc...!

chris

Iceman 01-29-2009 11:20 AM

and yet another use for the Stealth tank. I think it will make a great live well for bass tourneys as well.

BTW I have both models as I picked up the Stealth 12 today

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...0/IMG_1498.JPG

Kippers 01-29-2009 11:47 AM

After much research, I'd settled on the Malibu X13. Now, the Stealth is a major contender...BUT, I don't see a 'Package' deal with the Stealth yet. Will there be one? Gotta have the help since I'm new and I've never rigged before.

Siebler 01-29-2009 12:17 PM

I just put the Stealth packages on KFS yesterday.


http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/...aks/Categories

:cheers1:

Kippers 01-29-2009 01:28 PM

Ah, yes. I see them now. Thanks.
Quick question: The Stealth 12 packages: The Ulitimate adds to $2061 retail, and the pkg price is $1,999. The other Stealth 12 pkg adds to $1,471 retail, yet the pkg price is $1,479. Is this correct? What am I not seeing, here?

OEX 02-21-2009 08:49 PM

Kippers

Both packages come with the pump kit and installation for a limited time right now. A value of $110 that you may not have considered.

Tsunaumi pump, toggle switch, screen, adj. aerator etc.

OEX

Kiyo 02-21-2009 11:47 PM

Well it's not yet finished but here it is. My new Malibu Stealth 14 with the X-wing.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4497.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4498.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4499.jpg

Now inside the kayak I had Andy at OEX in Sunset Beach add a floating Bilge Pump so if it fills with water it will pump the water back out automatically.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4500.jpg

Here is the battery for the automatic bilge pump and my pump for the internal bait tank between my legs. It runs on a 6 volt 12 amp. battery.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4501.jpg

Here is the switch to turn the bait tank on or off. Even if the switch is off, it will still trigger the floating bilge pump in the back if the kayak fills with water.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4502.jpg

This is the view of the big hatch over the bait tank. A little big for me but good for Anthony to fill me up with bait easier at the bait barge.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4505.jpg

But when I close this big hatch, take a look at my other hatch I had Andy install which makes it a whole lot easier to get bait. Plus I can open and close it a lot easier.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4506.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4507.jpg

My transducer is now mounted on the Malibu X-Wing so I now have my ducer on the outside instead of thru the plastic for better readings. I will soon be having a Humminbird side view model so this is perfect.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4504.jpg

This is the hatch on the side of the x-wing to store the battery for the fishfinder.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4512.jpg

The same old bait tank for those longer days of fishing. And will be used for a livewell for Bass Tournaments.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4508.jpg

Plenty of rod holder storage!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4510.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4511.jpg


A view of the fishfinder (temporary Eagle 242) until I get some more info. at the Fred Hall Show for the sideview Humminbird models.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4480.jpg

Here are some live Mackerals from our last tournament in La Jolla. Mr. Pliska was kind enough to give me a few. I had the bottom drain plug out and kept the tank pump on low. Bait was really fresh and lively.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_4476.jpg

I'll be adding more photos soon. Hopefully with some fish!


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