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2-Stix 02-13-2017 08:22 AM

solo skiff
 
Not sure if this has been posted before...
...http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/solo-skiff

Mitchell, Bob...this has your name all over it.

Theres some places up North of me that I could fish and surf with access like that.
Would be a blast.

SDROB 02-13-2017 08:42 AM

Holy crap! That looks like a lot of fun. Perfect for Baja

Iceman 02-13-2017 09:22 AM

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Brent already sold one, guy picked up from me last week. Brent and Kerry supposed to be rigging one up for our booth at both Fred Hall Shows. I think the Hobie 21" H Rails would add some cool rigging possibilities.

tunaseeker 02-13-2017 10:25 AM

wow... Very cool. i see a lot of these selling!

Denis_Ruso 02-13-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SDROB (Post 275286)
Holy crap! That looks like a lot of fun. Perfect for Baja

I was thinking the same thing. We should get a fleet for your place down there! haha.

cris 02-13-2017 10:59 AM

I drooled over these before deciding on a kayak. Cool piece of kit.

Baja_Traveler 02-13-2017 11:44 AM

I can see myself fly fishing out of one of those. Would be perfect for Bob's place to get out to the islands real quick...

Double the price once you figure in an outboard, and still it would be cheaper than the Hobie Tandem or Adventure Island I was lusting after...

Bit wider and longer than my PA14, and the hull is heavier at 150 pounds. But still, I think it could be car topped.

FullFlavorPike 02-13-2017 05:12 PM

I would get a kaboat before that. Similar capabilities and capacity, but you can roll up a kaboat.

Any reason this thing would be superior?

MITCHELL 02-13-2017 05:54 PM

Not for me....
 
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Originally Posted by 2-Stix (Post 275284)
Not sure if this has been posted before...
...http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/solo-skiff

Mitchell, Bob...this has your name all over it.

Theres some places up North of me that I could fish and surf with access like that.
Would be a blast.

I built my better mouse trap
But looking for a plastic mold man to make my new canoe hull....with never before seen design...
It's in my head ? after catching a 44in YT a 45in halibut and a 30in halibut plus freshwater bass and trout and a a dozen or so surf launchings I no what I want in a hull design....float like a butterfly sting like a bee ----->

2-Stix 02-14-2017 07:53 AM

I like that its pretty much un sink able. Like a boston whaler. Little safer than a canoe or inflatable.

Dannowar 02-14-2017 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2-Stix (Post 275322)
I like that its pretty much un sink able. Like a boston whaler. Little safer than a canoe or inflatable.



And just like a Boston whaler (skiff) prepare to be wet all day

hook1fred 02-14-2017 08:39 AM

Probably paddle better than my PA 😂 I like it I'd probably wait till they sell used before I get one

Baja_Traveler 02-14-2017 12:01 PM

Like I'm never wet in my kayak - even my PA.

But I can see needing proper attire when it gets chilly out - definitely eating spray in quartering winds and swell - just like my PA, only at a more rapid pace.

I see myself using this in Baja where I'd be dry in just a few minutes.
Launch at the Old Mill and have a blast cruising out to the mouth of the bay without concern of sand bars, going where no panga dares.
Maybe shooting out of La Jolla to the outer kelp on those fall glassy mornings.
Zipping out to the island at Bob's place to fish with pole and speargun without the 10 mile round trip paddle/pedal getting in the way.
Imagine this thing down in Mag Bay! My god it would be awesome.
That little Tohatsu outboard with an external 2 gallon tank gives it a 40 mile range @ 11 mph. You can go places in this thing - and since it is a true skiff, I can use it at all the local lakes that ban SOT kayaks.

I'd put money on it being easier to paddle than my PA, though I'd probably get a stand up paddle for it instead of a kayak paddle. As you can guess, I'm pretty sold on it - spent all last night watching youtube videos and reading reviews. Gotta get a target rifle I'm not using sold to fund it first, but I'm targeting picking one up at Fred Hall San Diego (assuming rifle sells by then). Maybe have it at Bob's place during the April trip...

SDROB 02-14-2017 01:11 PM

Check out this video. This makes me really want one

https://youtu.be/9acCgcKXXDk

2-Stix 02-14-2017 01:18 PM

Wear waders and a splash jacket if you don't like the wa-wa.

hook1fred 02-14-2017 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Baja_Traveler (Post 275336)
Like I'm never wet in my kayak - even my PA.

But I can see needing proper attire when it gets chilly out - definitely eating spray in quartering winds and swell - just like my PA, only at a more rapid pace.

I see myself using this in Baja where I'd be dry in just a few minutes.
Launch at the Old Mill and have a blast cruising out to the mouth of the bay without concern of sand bars, going where no panga dares.
Maybe shooting out of La Jolla to the outer kelp on those fall glassy mornings.
Zipping out to the island at Bob's place to fish with pole and speargun without the 10 mile round trip paddle/pedal getting in the way.
Imagine this thing down in Mag Bay! My god it would be awesome.
That little Tohatsu outboard with an external 2 gallon tank gives it a 40 mile range @ 11 mph. You can go places in this thing - and since it is a true skiff, I can use it at all the local lakes that ban SOT kayaks.


I'd put money on it being easier to paddle than my PA, though I'd probably get a stand up paddle for it instead of a kayak paddle. As you can guess, I'm pretty sold on it - spent all last night watching youtube videos and reading reviews. Gotta get a target rifle I'm not using sold to fund it first, but I'm targeting picking one up at Fred Hall San Diego (assuming rifle sells by then). Maybe have it at Bob's place during the April trip...


You're not the only one thinking about one of these. If not for fishing then definitely for the fun factor. They look like a blast. Maybe time to sell my trinidads and talicas

FullFlavorPike 02-14-2017 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 2-Stix (Post 275322)
I like that its pretty much un sink able


Ya hear this a lot, and it always sounds a little bit like a dare to me....:eek:

King Saba 02-14-2017 07:58 PM

I'm just thinking about all the fishing possibilities with this bad boy. Looks fun!!!!

PapaDave 02-15-2017 07:00 AM

The video is cool, but they didn't show how it does on a choppy sea. Would it still be stable at those speeds?

Other then that it would be cool to have a longer range. I could see the value in that. Heck, on a good day you might get out to the Coronado's, definitely reach any offshore tuna.

fishing md 02-15-2017 07:24 AM

Take my money!!!!!!
Perfect for flyfishing!
Can I demo one at OEX sunset?

YakHanded 02-15-2017 07:37 AM

Super cool!

Here are some more videos
stability test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYcBSvsgg4U

Through minor lj-esque 'surf':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD9x5WGUpo4

This is another company Hayaari Marine that makes a similar boat - pretty cool too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbMSfUmoW2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA5mhRhnvIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-pEGUtvdw0

farreola 02-15-2017 08:10 AM

There are tons of videos on YouTube. There are is one where it is going through white caps, another through surf and a nice DYI dolly.

sandico 02-15-2017 08:24 AM

Yes we are going to be rigging up the Solo Skiff we have and bringing it to the shows. This is a unique kayak and has limitless rigging options. Unfortunately we will not be able to do any demo's until after the shows. Currently we are taking orders and they will be available in both OEX locations and come in 3 colors. Check it out here as well!

http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/...-skiff/id/288/

Kerry
OEX Mission Bay

SDROB 02-15-2017 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by farreola (Post 275370)
There are tons of videos on YouTube. There are is one where it is going through white caps, another through surf and a nice DYI dolly.

Buy one Frank! Or better yet 2, so I can borrow one:D I can see us rolling to the islands.

Baja_Traveler 02-15-2017 04:24 PM

Exactly - this!!

When I get mine I want Bob to get busy with his drone!

For all those who are serious about getting one, there is a great Solo Skiff Owners Group on Facebook. Lots of good info on motor recommendations, rigging and general use. I had read early reviews stating that the 3.5 HP Tohatsu is adequate and the way to go, but this group has convinced me that for a lard butt like me a 5 or even a 6 is the way to go.

http://m7.i.pbase.com/o9/85/360685/1...hingkayak2.jpg

makobob 02-15-2017 06:47 PM

So who is going to be the FIRST to do a Greg Andrews roll in one of these at Leo? SDROB, that thing should outrun a GW so you would be good to go.

I found a Gregor 14 with almost new 20 Honda ready for Baja, Should be there in April. Thanks guys.

PapaDave 02-16-2017 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by makobob (Post 275396)
So who is going to be the FIRST to do a Greg Andrews roll in one of these at Leo? SDROB, that thing should outrun a GW so you would be good to go.

I found a Gregor 14 with almost new 20 Honda ready for Baja, Should be there in April. Thanks guys.

If you're going to use an outboard you might as well go with that...

makobob 02-16-2017 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PapaDave (Post 275407)
If you're going to use an outboard you might as well go with that...

I went that way because of reliability, 20 hp 4 strokes just work and sip fuel. The smaller outboards seem to have more maintence and running problems including idle and fouled carbs. Only my opinion. TightLines.

Baja_Traveler 02-16-2017 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by makobob (Post 275410)
I went that way because of reliability, 20 hp 4 strokes just work and sip fuel. The smaller outboards seem to have more maintence and running problems including idle and fouled carbs. Only my opinion. TightLines.

Yep - in all my research on these little outboards - you'd better shut the valve and run the carb bowl dry after the end of the day, or suffer the consequences. Most likely because of the tiny jets on the carbs of these small engines are so easy to varnish up. Also recommended to add a marine fuel stabilizer.
Take care to do that, and they are extremely reliable and fuel efficient.

Also - I'm not about to be dragging an outboard out of the truck routinely that weighs over a hundred pounds. My goal is to go trailerless, simply because trailers are not allowed in the Sentri lane.

makobob 02-16-2017 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Baja_Traveler (Post 275417)
Yep - in all my research on these little outboards - you'd better shut the valve and run the carb bowl dry after the end of the day, or suffer the consequences. Most likely because of the tiny jets on the carbs of these small engines are so easy to varnish up. Also recommended to add a marine fuel stabilizer.
Take care to do that, and they are extremely reliable and fuel efficient.

Also - I'm not about to be dragging an outboard out of the truck routinely that weighs over a hundred pounds. My goal is to go trailerless, simply because trailers are not allowed in the Sentri lane.

So Kai, are you going to leave the small outboard attatched to the yak transom or REMOVE it for transport, I do like the idea. Really increases the exploration range. All the bigger Roosters WERE caught at the island.

Question to OEX.............Transducer Mounting options?????????

Tight Lines.

Baja_Traveler 02-16-2017 10:29 AM

That all depends - if I go the route where I load it in the bed of the truck with a hitch extender, I'll leave it in place. If I decide to go up on the racks with one of those pivot loaders, the outboard will go in the bed of the truck. I'm still debating back and forth on it, but tending towards up on the rack.
I just feel its safer for the boat, not hanging out there for someone to run into, and you know how when you pass through the Sentri booth you have to go through those super tight turns that prevent gate crashing? Reducing overall truck length is an advantage - heck, I feel like I can barely make those turns as it is.

The transducer question has also crossed my mind. I thought it would be awesome for them to include a "Lowrance Ready" option like Hobie has. But that would involve them building a new roto mold - not an inexpensive undertaking. I see that people have mounted fishfinders with the cabling passing through a watertight fitting in the forward bulkhead, but I don't see detail on the actual transducer mount. Since these boats are first rotomolded just like our kayaks, and then given a second pass with a foaming compound (creating an 1 1/2" hull) I'm not sure how well a transducer would "shoot through" that thick of material. Further research will be needed.
The cool thing is - all the expensive accessories I bought for the PA14 can simply be swapped over to the Solo, all I would have to duplicate are the transducer and rod holder mounts.

Baja_Traveler 02-16-2017 06:25 PM

Here's the problem with researching the crap out of something - it costs me money. This is the first accessory I have to order, and it will be the bomb for the PA14 also for getting over sand and cobble, way nicer than the Hobie cart and it folds up into a super compact package for transporting (But costs twice as much also:o).


Dynamic Dolly

makobob 02-16-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Baja_Traveler (Post 275453)
Here's the problem with researching the crap out of something - it costs me money. This is the first accessory I have to order, and it will be the bomb for the PA14 also for getting over sand and cobble, way nicer than the Hobie cart and it folds up into a super compact package for transporting (But costs twice as much also:o).


Dynamic Dolly

BT, contact EOD he has a PA 14 on this cart. Get his oppinion he used it at my place.

GoGoGoJack 02-18-2017 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FullFlavorPike (Post 275310)
I would get a kaboat before that. Similar capabilities and capacity, but you can roll up a kaboat.

Any reason this thing would be superior?



Perhaps a bit less munch-able than a Kaboat[emoji33]


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makobob 02-19-2017 11:26 AM

GREAT idea, two things do seem to stick out in my limited mind. First being a skiff it has to be registered in California and second, I doubt they will be allowed to fish most kayak tourneys with the motors attatched. A big plus point should be that they ARE NOT sit on tops so lake use should be assured. As for BAJA use they would be AWESOME.

Baja_Traveler 02-19-2017 11:52 AM

Definitely need registration - thats a requirement for every state being outboard powered, but where I couldn't bring myself to putting CF numbers on my PA, this would be no problem.

No kayak tournaments for this boat obviously, but thats what the PA is for. The Hobie is not going anywhere, this is just supplementing it.

Went down to OEX today to look at the boat going to the shows, and brought tape measure and paper. Took a bunch of measurements for planning purposes, Got it figured out how it will be stored in tandem with the PA. Figured out that if I loaded it in the bed of the truck, it would stick out only 4 1/2 feet past the tailgate. Most likely how I will be transporting it locally.
Figured out how to load the thing, both in the bed of the truck, and on the roof racks without having to do any heavy lifting, thus saving my back, as I'm not getting any younger. (this one I'll be building and proving out using the PA as a test case, and use it for that also).
Looking forward to fishing off it for sure. Figured out that with a 3 gallon tank I could fish from Bob's place all the way to Gonzaga Bay and back no problem.


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