I beat a seal
 

With my paddle as it tried to eat my fish bleeding on the game clip , then kicked it on its forehead.


I don't feel bad at all.

Thinking of rigging a boning knife to a stick.

Highly illegal, but what are you gonna do? Being nitpicky I know, but it was probably a sea lion. It's a pet peeve of mine, sorry. I like seals, hate sea lions.

Ya, young sealion. And actually there was a law published that in self defense you could use deadly force against a sea lions, but I guess it stealing a fish isn't really self defense lol.

I can relate, but getting mad will probably lead to bad karma...

Why not buy a decent catch bag like the one on the online store?

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Insulated game bag
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http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/...1-01/buyit.gif </td></tr></tbody></table>Keeps, Jaws, Pelicans, and other annoying fish thieves from taking your hard-earned prize...

Those are great, after its bleed out. Lol. The back of the yak and a gunny sack work too.

I had to club one of those black birds with the long necks over the head with my paddle. He was following me around trying to take my bait. I hate those things.

Paintball marker works great, put on on his neck and they never come back.

If I recall the defense of yourself, property, or catch is reason to use force. Anytime a seal tries to steal your catch while it is attached to your kayak pretty much grants you all 3 criteria.

I was out a couple nights ago and watched a guy on a private boat beat a pelican over the head three times with his fishing rod....I could not believe this douche bag. I peddled towards the guy keeping the pelican between us and it appeared he had killed the pelican. As I kept going towards the pelican the pelican woke up but obviously wasn't doing too well. The guy was laughing and said he just knocked it out. I was pretty pissed off and told the guy that was fucked up....He stated the pelican was trying to get his bait (and he had been loading up on bait) and so I said so you hit it over the head three times with your rod.....he said the bait had a hook in it and so I said then you do like the rest of us and take the hook out of its mouth and put more bait on.....the guy apologized twice for his action but I told him he broke its right wing and essentially it was a dead bird.......I didn't see a boat name and couldn't see a CF number but I would have loved to turn this douche bag in........I told him this is exactly what gives fisherman a bad name.....again he was apologetic and if I was a young buck I would of been on his boat beating him with his rod....this is a protected species and one I love to see when I'm on the water......If I hook one I get it in and get the hook out and let it go without creating any injury to the animal.

I love to be out on the water and enjoy all the wildlife that I encounter. Whether I catch fish or not I always feel like I have had a great day due to the total experience. Witnessing a guy due this type of stuff was a real buzz kill and makes fisherman look bad. Striking a sealion with a paddle is likely not going to do any damage and only get him a way from your fish....but attaching a knife to injure or kill a sea lion is illegal and pretty messed up thought process in my opinion.....and again gives fisherman a bad name.

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/species/...niasealion.htm

You have to remember I have a gaff and 9" fillet knife with me and opted for the paddle and foot. ;)

Im sure The knife on a stick seems like a good idea to anyone when you have a fish on board and the seals want it.

Saw a dead pelican and two scuba chickens out there.

I'm a fan of a paddle and foot for a large mammal that could put you in the drink.......you will not create great harm and will get it away from you and your fish........just not into seriously injuring these animals ie knife on a stick.....and they are a protected species

I'm with you 100% Bigbarrels. Thank you for speaking out and protecting our air support! A lot of these birds have helped me spot the YTs resulting in big time hooks ups. Many of these birds are air support for kayakers much like the tuna boats depend on their helicopters for air support to spot tuna.

If i ever see anyone beating a bird to a pulp with a rod i'm calling the coastgaurd and local lifegaurd immediately!!! I have both numers on speed dial. :toetap05:

What better way to get the rest of our fishing grounds shut down.

You gonna injure a sea lion because you were not able to bleed your fiish in peace?


With that attitude, I hope a sea lion eats your next 10 YT.

x2 amen.

its kind of funny, we go into their home and act like we own the place and then flip our lids when they react and try to take back whats always been theirs.

its like if a sea lion came into your house, started eating out of your fridge and then you get pissed and walk over to it to stop it and suddenly the sea lion pulls out a knife or a giant paddle and starts swinging at your head, screaming: "GET OUT OF HERE HUMAN!"

Ridiculous!!!!

What????

I made the mistake of checking the site and my oh my, what do I see, heckling and harrassment for sharing.

Where are the Mods? I see several posters above that need to be banned for at least a week.

Are we enforcing the no heckling, bullying, right to post philosophy or not?

Andy, Adi, where are you guys????

Selective enforcement of the new policy does not work, consistency does.

i think it turned south once he mentioned strapping a knife to the end of a pole (which would be for stabbing the sea lion obviously).

Oh wait...are you being sarcastic? I cant tell :(

stupid internet

Popcorn in 3...2...1...

I'm guessing he was temporarily banned for heckling someone?

I'm too new here so, ummm, where's the door.... Oh there it is. You guys have fun...

/exits

Thanks for the story about the pelican. I agree with your sentiments about the outlandish way that person cruelly-abused that animal, and am sad to see a fellow angler devolve to that level.

On the other hand, I think maybe we should give lowprofile the benefit of the doubt, as he was probably jesting or venting his frustration... Posts online don't normally reveal the full aspect of a person's real intentions... as it is more likely that he was 'just saying.'

Of course, if we see him out on the water clubbing seals or sea lions with an icepick, that's another matter. :D

I'm actually planning to buy that catch back since the description says that there are drainage holes for fluid. I normally take out a trader joes soft-shell, insulated tote bag with some ice to keep my legal catches fresh. Spares me from attracting annoyances or other encounters. My cousin had a Boston Whaler with a few of those offshore fish bags which were awesome. Kept the decks clean, and fish fresh (sashimi-grade).

As for a humane method for warding off unwanted wildlife, I wonder if something such as a noise-can would be effective without harming the offender in question.

Why dont we all take a breather, read the link below, reopen the link below, re read it the 2nd time all the way through, come back re read through all the post then lastly re read the link below.

I'm pretty sure LowPro was jesting about the poke stick:rolleyes:

[font] sarcastic [font] maybe we can get the mods to insert a sarcastic font. [font] sarcastic [font]

http://www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mamma...-Pinnipeds.pdf.

The best option here is to just make the thread go away...

[Insert foot in mouth picture here:]

Why, because someone SAID something you didnt like.:rolleyes:
I have countless run ins with various types of sea life that has needed to be deterred, I dont believe in harming it but if the need arises to use force to protect myself I will. Try taking a 8 year old out on a tandem and having a seal jump on the back not once but twice, both times I shot it with a paintball marker in the side and it came back. I had to radio the harbour patrol for assistance, at which point they actually tied the seal to their boat an towed it away from us. every time I tag a seal with the paint ball marker I don't feel bad at all either.

I have all kinds of evil thoughts about sea lions, I just keep them to myself.

Welcome back! :D

Don't you know you're supposed to talk it out with the wildlife? Next time, you tell that animal what it has done wrong, how it's violating your personal space, and that you too would like to eat the catch you worked so hard for. Being perfectly reasonable I'm sure the creature will recognize the error of it's ways, apologize and go on about it's day. After all, when two wild animals go head to head over food they tend to take into account each others feelings, have a good long debate about the morality of their intentions and eventually come to a joint resolution that suits both their needs...


That's how it goes, right?

it was just a sarcastic, evil plot. the paintball gun might be handy. although most of the time i see them is when they are still under water right by my yak. they never give enough body to get a good shot, unless you peg them in the head.

no one cares i used a paddle, all they see is the word knife and go ballistic. I bet no one here would go moose hunting in alaska without bear protection though.

tight lines.

The best part about this thread is bigbarrels post - it is right on.

You should have said K-bar! ;)

Do any of you remember when some "insert word here" was cutting off the bills and pouches of pelicans here in SD. I think that was 15 years or so ago. I hope we don't see that BS happening again. With social media and cameras every where that will give every one a black eye. Beating a pelican to death for what they do naturally (eating fish) is just wrong, illegal, and unnessasary.

By all means defend yourself, but defence doesn't start with carring a deadly wepon. It starts with knowledge and a defensive mindset. When you're in bear country you put your chow in a tree or in a bear proof can. You don't stash granola under your pillow in the tent. Treat sealions the same. Get your fish landed, bled, and secured out of sight as quickly as you can. I have never once bled a fish over the side of the yak. I bleed them down the front scupper hole (now mirage drive slot) and just keep water flowing down the hole with a sponge. It's NEVER the animals fault in any human/animal interaction or confrontation. Mike

Cant fit a yellow in that thing lol

Yeah. I know the YTs that have been coming out of LJ have been monstrous...

I finally recalled the bag that my cousin had. It was the Sea Angler fish bag and I think it would be long enough for most species targeted via kayaks.http://www.alltackle.com/KingfishBag.jpg Sea Angler 65" x 20" Off Shore Fishing Bag


If there's enough demand, maybe the board sponsors will decide to carry it.

I agree that keeping the sight and smell of food away from wildlife is the probably the best course of action.

this is like the 3rd time its been posted lol.

step one, read 1st post dont like what was said,
step two, skip all the junk in the middle,
step three, post reply.

just to be clear we are talking about seals not sea birds right?

I think all the fish sticks are conspiring against you!!!