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tony 03-05-2011 07:09 PM

Seals slaughtered at Childrens Pool - NSFW
 
This is horrible... Father and son needlessly butcher seals and their pups.
Warning - this is very graphic and not appropriate for younger audiences.

Video from a couple weeks back but typical of the carnage...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOx5vNYk9OQ

Bob, did you ever check with your lifeguard friends about kayaks at the Children's pool?...I know the Spearos are with us..
Spent another afternoon there today ...same old BS and eco-terrorist propaganda...But today we had several couples join us with kids..
No seals on the beach today but the eco-terrorists screamed at the kids anyway.

onetriphudson 03-05-2011 07:45 PM

Oh God, so much blood!!! How could everyone just stand there and watch!

kurt 03-05-2011 07:54 PM

Seals are not meant to get wet.

Dean Machine 03-05-2011 08:10 PM

Scary.

dsafety 03-05-2011 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=tony;77631]
Bob, did you ever check with your lifeguard friends about kayaks at the Children's pool?...I know the Spearos are with us..QUOTE]

I apologize. I tried to reach the new ranger but never got a return call. I also contacted Sheri Lightner's office, again with no response. Then I got busy and forgot about the project.

I am on vacation in Kauai this week but will give it a go again when I return. For those who may be interested, San Diego has much better weather right now than Hawaii. It has rained constantly since I got here. I saw the sun for the first time today.

Our kayak fishing family is well represented this week in Kauai. I ran into Josh, (J-mo) in the airport with his family. We are staying in different parts of the island but hope to get together over the next few days.

Save a few of those beautiful WSB for Josh and I when we return.

Bob

tony 03-05-2011 08:33 PM

Kauai.....Poipu beach?

Tman 03-05-2011 10:30 PM

I think I saw Knothead in the mix...so, sea lions are now seals?????

And that one seal looked like he wanted to play...

Ya know, been a while since the lad and I played beach football...anybody up for some friendly competition?

Bring it...:luxhello:

THE DARKHORSE 03-05-2011 10:45 PM

Frisby? Football? I've got a better idea...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tman (Post 77664)
I think I saw Knothead in the mix...so, sea lions are now seals?????

And that one seal looked like he wanted to play...

Ya know, been a while since the lad and I played beach football...anybody up for some friendly competition?

Bring it...:luxhello:




Anybody up for a game of Horse-Shoes? I really suck, but I love to play. Isn't the goal, to throw that thingamajiggy as far as you can? :D

I'll make sure to land there this week with a giant bleeding fish, too. Better yet, I might start bleeding all my fish in 3' of water off that beach. It might be the only way to legally cut down the Seal population if you asked me. Why fear the taxman when obviously he's our friend?

Besides, If she puts video of me with giant fish on You-Tube Tube everyday---business would skyrocket! :idea:

Billy V 03-06-2011 01:17 AM

That woman shooting the video is a crackpot.

Be sure to bring a radio for the horseshoe tournament. Seals like Metallica.
-----------------------------------------
We should do the Moyer Tournament from that beach this year. They closed everything else, and that beach is not located in a reserve.

Its fair game.

jorluivil 03-06-2011 01:30 AM

HORRIFIC!!!

Adam12 03-06-2011 05:36 AM

Are all the people standing on the jetty eco nuts too?

T Bone 03-06-2011 07:27 AM

Yes she is crazy.I watched her other videos on you tube.Check all her comments.they are 99% negative.Someone needs to buy her some new batteries...

dfroggy54 03-06-2011 08:27 AM

LOL! "they are separated from mommies, but fortunately that worked well." OMG, this video is seriously disturbing. I love it when I snorkel in there. when its not so populated with seels, but even then those people give you problems. They should just close the childrens pool down and let the seals perch on rocks like they would naturally, and call them Seal preserves so the enviros can protest those areas.

bellcon 03-06-2011 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE (Post 77665)
Anybody up for a game of Horse-Shoes? I really suck, but I love to play. Isn't the goal, to throw that thingamajiggy as far as you can? :D

I'll make sure to land there this week with a giant bleeding fish, too. Better yet, I might start bleeding all my fish in 3' of water off that beach. It might be the only way to legally cut down the Seal population if you asked me. Why fear the taxman when obviously he's our friend?

Besides, If she puts video of me with giant fish on You-Tube Tube everyday---business would skyrocket! :idea:



I say we "borrow" the seal ladies shoes and have a real game of
"whore-shoes"

Just kidding
I like the idea of paddling in with big fish better:sifone:

BT 03-06-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE (Post 77665)
Anybody up for a game of Horse-Shoes? I really suck, but I love to play. Isn't the goal, to throw that thingamajiggy as far as you can? :D

I'll make sure to land there this week with a giant bleeding fish, too. Better yet, I might start bleeding all my fish in 3' of water off that beach. It might be the only way to legally cut down the Seal population if you asked me. Why fear the taxman when obviously he's our friend?

Besides, If she puts video of me with giant fish on You-Tube Tube everyday---business would skyrocket! :idea:

The heck with horse shoes...anyone have an old set of lawn darts...and I mean the old school style with the metal points? Maybe we can have a yearly tournament like the OTL tourney? I am sure they would love that!

Billy V 03-06-2011 02:25 PM

Some of the Best Youtube Videos are the ones titled
"Maniacs of the Week"

The Abortion Video -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmjQi...eature=related

A Quote from the Diver...."Well I betcha You've had at least 2 Abortions" LMFAO

bigbarrels 03-06-2011 02:43 PM

IS there room for a slip and slide?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-dS64rmKDc

Billy V 03-06-2011 03:08 PM

Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs.

Bullhorn gets impounded for evidence. :p

Intermittent hormonal crying from the nutjob - :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHiMT...eature=related

Aaron 03-06-2011 03:12 PM

Here's a still from some video I took during our surface kick back into the cove this morning. Don't these things look sweet?

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...lawildlife.jpg

Every diver coming back into the cove this morning was being approached like this by these furbags. It was entertaining for me since they seemed to like my dive buddy!!

tony 03-06-2011 03:40 PM

Wow....just wow...
I wish the anti-abortionists were standing closer to the seals/water. Throw in the slip & slide , some clowns, and one of those huge inflatable Jumpy Jumps
for the kids and perhaps the whole situation would implode...

bellcon 03-06-2011 04:19 PM

can we drag them all to lagoona?
(including the crazy lady?)

Tman 03-06-2011 04:59 PM

Maybe we could come up with some t-shirts, and plan a midday lunch break...paddle in to Children's Pool, plop down beach chairs, a BBQ, and have a nice lunch, pot luck style...and I am serious...

Possible t-shirt slogans...

..........SEALS
the other white meat

..........SEALS
betcha can't eat just one

..........SEALS
.......taste great

And my pick...

........PREY
......4 SEALS

tony 03-06-2011 06:41 PM

Found this interesting...One of the bullhorn crazy ladies- Dorata Valli- tried to nominate herself to the MLPA South Coast Regional Stake Holders Group..

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...v5dJdqLwUe47GA

Wonder what her intentions were?

Also these idiots run Youtube videos where they are clearly harassing normal decent people and try to portray their victims as maniacs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfcS414_OoY

Where is County Mental Health when you need them??

Willy 03-06-2011 08:24 PM

Would it be harassing the seals if we brought a bullhorn to the beach and 'spoke' to the seals?
It wouldn't be touching them. Just talking to them.
Isn't it 'dialogue' that is the solution to any issue for the seal hugger types anyway?

Willy

Billy V 03-06-2011 09:32 PM

According to the nutty camera woman

-If the Sun Shines - its harassment
-Legally Walk on a beach - its harassment
-Cut a loud fart - its harassment
-Swim in the ocean - its harassment
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She needs to go home and clean her dirty bloomers.:p

taggermike 03-07-2011 07:31 AM

You can't fix stupid. I was at the CP last summer with my kids, just strolling along like a out of towner and encountered these kooks. I acted like I was naive to the whole ugly situation and let her go through her speel. It was rediculous but funny too. She told me the seals had been pupping on the this beach for thousands of years. I said I though the CP was man made and not that old. Didn't get a response to that. I pointed out, that too the best of my knowledge, very few if any pinnipeds ever bread on the mainland beaches in California. I got "that look", you know the poor-you-foolish-person look. I pointed out to her the grizzly bear on the California flag handily flying near by. She had no idea grizzlys used to roam the beaches of CA. I said her NO pinniped would ever drop a pup any where a bear had access to. They would pup on the islands or coastal rocks. Gotta love the angry look I got back. Most/all of these folks have absolutely zero knowledge of biology, ecology, or history but they sure had plenty of people listening to thier bs. MIke

Riskey Water 03-07-2011 08:34 AM

" The incident resulted in a federal citation ." This was part of the description caption .Is this BS or did that poor guy get a ticket for retrieving his ball .I say bring on the man in the grey suit ,we need a new sheriff in these here waters

Riskey Water 03-07-2011 08:42 AM

Hey TMAN ,on that shirt idea how about " SEALS its whats for dinner " and use the jaws poster image with a seal instead of the girl

dsafety 03-08-2011 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riskey Water (Post 77827)
Hey TMAN ,on that shirt idea how about " SEALS its whats for dinner " and use the jaws poster image with a seal instead of the girl

I like this one. We have to have a graphic artist and a silk screaner in our family. Someone make it happen.

Bob

maui jim 03-09-2011 06:33 AM

Are those Seal Nut Nazis, I'm sorry "activists" (That's the Mel Gibson coming out in me. I mis-typed, I was drunk and need rehab)

But, harrasing the Federal Protected Seagulls from perching on the upper level of the bluffs so the Gulls have a view in order to eat the seal placenta form the birthing process that is a natural food resource for the protected Seagulls

They are disrupting the natural habitat, balance, and daily activities of those poor, poor Seagulls...my god.... I got to get no life, and a camera and I'm there....:cool:

Maybe I should bring them some fresh Deer Jerkey as peace offering....

SAVE THE SEAGULL'S FROM STARVATION.....Return the Gulls habitat damit..

Hunters Pa 03-09-2011 06:55 AM

We could have sea lion pinatas. Bring your own club.

bigbarrels 03-09-2011 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maui jim (Post 78074)
Are those Seal Nut Nazis, I'm sorry "activists" (That's the Mel Gibson coming out in me. I mis-typed, I was drunk and need rehab)

But, harrasing the Federal Protected Seagulls from perching on the upper level of the bluffs so the Gulls have a view in order to eat the seal placenta form the birthing process that is a natural food resource for the protected Seagulls

They are disrupting the natural habitat, balance, and daily activities of those poor, poor Seagulls...my god.... I got to get no life, and a camera and I'm there....:cool:

Maybe I should bring them some fresh Deer Jerkey as peace offering....

SAVE THE SEAGULL'S FROM STARVATION.....Return the Gulls habitat damit..


Classic! Those people are definitely disrupting prime seagull habitat.......I can donate some Elk Jerky

old_rookie 03-09-2011 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony (Post 77734)
Found this interesting...One of the bullhorn crazy ladies- Dorata Valli- tried to nominate herself to the MLPA South Coast Regional Stake Holders Group..

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=...v5dJdqLwUe47GA

Wonder what her intentions were?

Also these idiots run Youtube videos where they are clearly harassing normal decent people and try to portray their victims as maniacs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfcS414_OoY

Where is County Mental Health when you need them??

Whoever that guy was on the video handled the situation very well and DID set a good example for his son - showing him how to handle the woman.

Don't know what federal law he is breaking. At one time there was a rope down there - not in the video.

I bet each time it rains, the run-off causes more of a problem for the seals than anyone walking the beach or getting a ball.

If that woman has her kids around during this, she is keeping future psychiatrists employed.

rogersmith 03-09-2011 08:35 AM

I would urge everyone who has a strong opinion on the seal thing to think something through. I know, the first reaction, mine as well, is to say its about the agenda of wacko environmentalists placing animals' rights over people. The same agenda that has led to the MLPA and absolute looney "species management" that is actually anti fishing legislation built on messed up moral judgement. Believe me, I see the point here. Mother Nature ceded the SoCal coast to human use a long time ago, protecting seal access in a developed area is pretty silly. Yes, if dissuaded from living there they will find more appropriate alternatives., which do exist.

But, I am from New Jersey and for the angler there, ACCESS is everything. When I look at this debate I see wealthy home owners who dont like traffic, crowds, noise. And thats it; wealth and power driving a local political agenda. If you asked me to be completly objective without the enviro angle, sometimes I think its fare to say its a farce that this beach needs to be reserved for "children". There are MILES of beaches in San Diego; pick another to play frisbee. La Jolla shores is right down the road.

I see both sides of this though. And while I would support fighting the ridiculous agenda of the enviros, be VERY CAREFUL about what money and power can do as well. Today they dont like the traffic and crowds the seals bring, tomorrow they will object to some aspect, real or imagined, of fishing activities and then we will be on the chopping block. This was the case year in and year out in NJ. Some trash on the beach? No more parking allowed! Couple of hooks on the rocks? No fishing signs go up. All to protect the privacy of the little enclaves of the rich and connected. It was a travesty. I was threatened with police once for LOOKING at a lake in a "private" community in NJ, told I was trespassing. A naturally occuring lake no less, not a product of a dam!!

Remember, look at how the MLPA process went, most or all of the actual worthwhile aspects of it were stripped: polution, development and runoff management. What emerged was the enviro victory over the weakest target, rec fishing. The commercial interests and their $$$ got their way.

Im not saying lets all hug the seals, but think about how enabling the agenda of local wealth can lead to curtailed public access and use of shore fishing locations, launch spots, parking, etc.

Now I will duck and cover :o

Zed 03-09-2011 09:44 AM

http://www.thetshop.com/images/qi07/28108.jpg

umtduckhead 03-09-2011 10:42 AM

emotational based thought fueled by ignorance= HIPPIE.. clearly a woman that hates PEOPLE! there is one video i watched of her and theres a group of people looking at the seals relatively close, she starts BALLING HER EYES OUT on this video... stupid..

dorado50 03-09-2011 11:01 AM

Here ya go Bob... Perhaps when your not fishing you can rally the family together and counter protest with these!

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9500/cesspool.jpg

Riskey Water 03-09-2011 11:07 AM

I like the shirt Dorado also like the idea of a family BBQ at C P where the kids bash a Seal Pinata .It could be loaded up with candy and plastic swimbaits .HAHAHAHAHAHA

Hunters Pa 03-09-2011 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorado50 (Post 78108)
Here ya go Bob... Perhaps when your not fishing you can rally the family together and counter protest with these!

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9500/cesspool.jpg


Could always do a red tie-dye (blood spatter) pattern. Really mess with em

sixgunn 03-09-2011 04:08 PM

wow, you guys got a real powder Keg down there.
Looking at all the videos, I'm surprised people aren't getting killed over that crap.
Up here in the North West, we realize those thing eat fish, & when the population grows too high, we run low on fish, the Puget sound hasnt had a big problem with shark declines, we don't actually have many sharks that are big enough to eat a seal
Anglers here have 2 major competitors for Salmon, Seals & Indians... we cant do anything about the Indians, they have treaty rights, as far as the seals go... well I cant do anything about them either, but on the occasions that an Indian kills a seal, as long as he doesn't leave it on the beach, you'll hear no complaint from me. that's just one less competitor, & an opportunity to boost the salmon run.


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