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Trident 15 12-22-2010 11:06 AM

Knifes on your PFD ??????
 
Hi guys Do you have a Knife on your PFD ???

Which One ?

Blunt tip or pointed ?

Blade length

Titanium or stainless ?

I have been reading Reviews on many Knifes and many say their knifes fall out of the sheaths ( ? poor locking system ) Are some better than others ?

Price and good place to Buy ?

:you_rock: Thanks for all the info in the past, you have been very helpful !

Bob....................

dorado50 12-22-2010 11:18 AM

No, and keep looking for a knife that doesn't fall out of its sheath. I bought a handfull of knifes from anglers choice for $6.00 each , (plastic sheath and serrated edge),awhile ago.I don't plan on bull riding a gws anytime soon so these work out great....

JoeBeck 12-22-2010 11:35 AM

This knife will not fall out of the sheath. It is high quality, stays sharp, and fits on your PDF lash tab.

http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.a...71&pdeptid=960

ronbo613 12-22-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBeck (Post 71535)
This knife will not fall out of the sheath. It is high quality, stays sharp, and fits on your PDF lash tab.

http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.a...71&pdeptid=960

For $100, it better do something

dorado50 12-22-2010 12:29 PM

That nrs knife is way over the top. One would probably loose it within a few uses, or after awhile you decide you want a better(or different) knife. Do yourself a favor and keep your kayak knife cheap and simple..

PescadorPete 12-22-2010 04:16 PM

Yes, always, its a safety thing. A folding knife in the PFD pocket tied off to a tether shorter than an arms length. By grabbing the back of the blade and extending your arm you can open the knife one handed. And you can't drop it and lose it. Imagine your hand getting wrapped up in the line as big mister T pulls you over the side and underwater. How else are you going to get out of that one?

StinkyMatt 12-22-2010 05:09 PM

For a hundred bucks that knife better launch my kayak, hook a breeding/ pup trasher, filet it and cook it for me!:D

Jzo 12-23-2010 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyMatt (Post 71560)
For a hundred bucks that knife better launch my kayak, hook a breeding/ pup trasher, filet it and cook it for me!:D

X2.:D

JoeBeck 12-23-2010 08:26 AM

You can get the stainless steal one for $39 :D. I found when I buy cheap knifes............. well they end up being cheap knifes

Fiskadoro 12-23-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PescadorPete (Post 71552)
Imagine your hand getting wrapped up in the line as big mister T pulls you over the side and underwater. How else are you going to get out of that one?

This is exactly why I fish spectra.... Nah Nah nah naaahhh Nah Nah nah naaahhh Hey Hey Hey Goodbye hand. :sifone:

I don't think a PFD knife is nearly as important for the fishing we do as it is for rafting and whitewater kayaking. That said is I was going to buy a "river knife" it would probably be a Gerber, most a Gerber shorty.

$25 bucks at Amazon
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...8L._AA300_.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Gerber-River-Shorty-Knife/dp/B0042NKPO2


Then I'd probably sharpen a point on it...but honestly.... If I really wanted to buy something for my PFD I'd go with a tactical folder.

Most likely a Spyderco Byrd Crossbill.
http://stormeroutdoors.com/byrd/BY07P_1.jpghttp://stormeroutdoors.com/byrd/BY07P_2.jpg
http://stormeroutdoors.com/byrd/BY07P_3.jpg

Ebay $18 here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-Byrd-Cr...item2a0ccd926d

Here's why I'd choose that over a "River Knife": First off it's just a wicked little knife... I like the hook shaped traditional marine type blade because it quickly grabs rope for cutting in a emergency, and it's clean no serrated. I know some love them but I do not like serrated blades because I like to sharpen my own blades and get them razer sharp and I just do not like the way serrated blades sharpen.

That knife is super easy to open with the comet-shaped hole (rather than the traditional round Spyderco hole). It locks securely, but is still easy to close, the clip allows you to clip on vest, it has a hole for a lanyard, and since it actually has a point (unlike most "river knives) if push came to shove I could actually stick someone with it if necessary. To me that is actually a plus :D


Spyderco has been high quality Tactical Folders for years, and they now make the "Byrd" sub-brand to directly compete with the Chinese knockoffs of their own products which they now sell relatively dirt cheap. So it's not a knockoff it's just a Chinese made Spyderco knife. The all metal version above with the stainless steel handle is two ounces heavier (around five total ounces) then the similar composite handled knives but I'd prefer it because there is less to go wrong, and less nooks and crannies to catch salt, and since it's blade is 8Cr13MoV Stainless it should hold up well in a saltwater environment.

So....

If I was actually going to get a knife for my vest that would likely be it......

....In fact...well...honestly... while looking for pics I found one for 13 bucks online at Sierra trading post so I just ordered one. :sifone:

That said I usually carry and old Rapala fillet knife I've had for years, usually in a rod holder, that someone gave me for Christmas a few seasons back about now.

I guess now I'll have to carry two knives.... :D


Jim

dorado50 12-23-2010 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBeck (Post 71595)
You can get the stainless steal one for $39 :D. I found when I buy cheap knifes............. well they end up being cheap knifes


Some things that are essential on a kayak are ok to be cheap as long as they are effective. My $6.00 knife is a year and three months old,no rust,still sharp! Pliers should be cheap also since they too are prone to fall overboard.My $8 pair are very effective. It hurts when your $100 knife and $40 pliers go overboard! No Thanks....now fishing gear is a whole different story.

Billy V 12-23-2010 11:34 AM

The $5 Promar knife I have since 2006 still works fine. Its got a blue plastic handle and a good strong sheath. (From Dana Market)
I'll post a pic later.

My New $5.99 pliers/cutters do a good job as well. (From Charkbait) 10% off for you guys - mention that you are BWE.

The old set of Walmart pliers finally broke on a Baja trip this year under heavy use.
ie. Unhooking irons from 35 Yellowtail in a day. + a half dozen or so good sized bonita. Curtosity of 2 BWE guys and 1 slimy power boater.:)
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a0...D720/ry%3D480/

jorluivil 12-23-2010 01:44 PM

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I have a Deep Sea Wenoka snap on knife, I believe I paid under $40 for it at Sports Chalet, bought this back in April and it looks like new. I've used it to cut spectra, mono, flouro, rope, kelp and bait........I wash it down with freshwater after every trip. My neighbor bought a similar knife the same day at the same store and his looks like it 13yrs old. He doesn't take the time to wash it down and just lets it sit out to dry after each trip. I believe he paid about $15 less and 8months later he's going to have to buy a new one.

Whatever you buy just keep it clean and should last a long time. Leave it sitting around with saltwater on it and you'll find yourself buying a new one in no time.

cowboybill 12-23-2010 04:35 PM

knife on leg
 
I carry a dive knife strapped on my leg, along with a pair of pliers that will cut spectra....

The pliers are nice, and came with a leash to the holster. P line is the brand.

I tried to use a "river knife", and it kept rusting up... probably low grade stainless.

:cheers1:Cowboybill

Billy V 12-23-2010 05:52 PM

Here is the Promar Knife for $3.50

Its a strong sob with a large handle - click the pic to enlarge.

http://www.westcreekkayakandcanoe.co...roducts_id=240

Fiskadoro 12-23-2010 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy V (Post 71631)
Here is the Promar Knife for $3.50

Its a strong sob with a large handle - click the pic to enlarge.

http://www.westcreekkayakandcanoe.co...it%20Knife.jpg

I get you on price but that is just not a very sexy knife :biggrinjester:

Fiskadoro 12-23-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 71616)
I have a Deep Sea Wenoka snap on knife..
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/a...1&d=1293144168


Cool looking knife...

Personally I just can't get over the blunt nose thing. Yeah I get it these knives are designed for rafting where you could drop the knife and put a hole in your raft, but for kayaking I just can't see a big advantage in a blunt tipped knife. Personally I use my knife on the kayak for only a few basic things. Cutting bait, gutting fish, or stabbing it deep into halibut, or T sharks to severe thier spinal column to incapacitate them. You can gut a fish with a small knife but it sure helps if it has a point on it.

Just my take though.

Jim

bellcon 12-23-2010 08:16 PM

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Fiskadoro 12-24-2010 01:34 AM

I got an email from a diver about this thread who told me that my Spyderco Byrd Crossbill is the cheaper form of the Spyderco H1 Spyderhawk.

http://www.spyderco.com/forums/attac...1&d=1253135300http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...kinhand003.jpg

Evidently the H1 Spyderhawk is used as a dive knife.

According to him my Chinese knife will discolor over time and may have some oxidation maintenance issues whereas the H1 Stainless is completely rust free, not effected saltwater at all, and holds a superior edge.

He said they are basically indestructible.
Checked around and those knives can be found in the 60 to 75 dollar range.

Nice knife but I think I'll stick to my cheaper version :biggrinjester:

Jim

jorluivil 07-26-2012 02:01 AM

WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
 
3 years later:

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1343296415

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1343292754

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1343292753

gupppy 07-26-2012 05:40 AM

my knife is a 99 cent folded knife from bps. it stays in one of the chest latch pockets and doesn't fall out.

Gigafish 07-26-2012 07:47 AM

:DMy knife is the Rambo knife. Compass, matches, fishing line, hooks all in one.

taggermike 07-26-2012 08:06 AM

When I worked in Alaska all the guys on our siene boat wore the serrated SpiderCo knives on their suspenders of thier slickers. I like the non-pointed knives because you rarely use the point of a knife and having the point in any emergency situation its more likely to end up in you. I worked for years as a meat cutter and I can't think of a knife chore where I used the point of my knife. The woman in this vid looks like she's doing fine with a knife with no point. Mike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tU5nmzqfbw

addicted2sp33d 07-26-2012 08:46 AM

Wow, that lady has a really sharp blade. I agree - cutting has more to do with a sharp blade than a pointy tip... but I still like to have a pointy tip around.

I have a 6" Rapala (fixed) blade mounted on the left panel of my PFD, handle-up, so it doesn't fall out and I can unsheath it and have it ready to go like this:
http://www.neptonicsystems.com/kni2.jpg

My thought process is:
  • It's on my PFD, in a consistent place, so if for some reason I am separated from my boat or if I can't see, I will still have my knife.
  • I like fixed blades because there's more to "break" on one of those flip knives. Also, the mechanics of deploying and retracting the blade is not always easy with gloves-on.
  • If I'm using it to cut bait, I'm in no rush and I can change grip.
  • If I need an emergency cut, I will be slashing away from my body instead of pulling towards my body.
  • If I need an emergency stab of some kind (think dark unblinking eyes), the blade is already in the right grip for me to deliver at least an annoying pinprick to the snout or eyeball.

Photoxic 07-26-2012 01:31 PM

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I use the NRS CRKT Renner Neckolas knife on my PFD. It's light weight and fits perfectly on my pfd.

Fiskadoro 07-26-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 126751)
3 years later.....


I'm still carry the same Spyderco crossbill. Pretty much looks the same as it did. It's perfect for what I use it for. Love it and I use it all the time.

I've got a good story about it safety wise. A skiff hooping near a local breakwall ran over one of his hoop net ropes and wrapped it so bad it stalled his outboard. When he couldn't seem to get the motor going again I paddled over and found he still the outboard drive up out of the water and was trying to saw the rope off with an old fillet knife. He was using some old stiff 1/2 yellow poly ski type rope with his nets and it had wrapped a bunch of times around the prop shaft and hub. With all the wraps and the thick poly he wasn't making much headway, and drifting in onto the rocks. I opened my knife put the point under the first wrap then systematically cut through one wrap after another rocking the knife edge up curved back to the hub like a pry bar to cut the ropes like an old fashioned can opener. Worked great had it all off in about a minute, and he got his motor back down and started just in time to keep his boat off the rocks.

He offered me money, then bugs but I turned him down, though I will admit I drank a few of his beers. :cheers1:

Slow hooping but I felt like a million bucks. Love that knife wouldn't trade it. Probably should buy a backup in case I ever loose it.

Jim

finyak 07-26-2012 03:49 PM

I found mine on the freeway:D.

Finyak

richard67b 07-26-2012 03:49 PM

I HAVE SAME KNIFE AS JORLVIVIL 2 YRS OLD :D


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