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tylerdurden 06-30-2008 09:35 PM

Canning your own fish
 
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...81/canning.jpg

For a long time I thought there was some great mystery or special equipment needed to can your own catch. Then last year I looked into it and discovered how easy it really is and tried it for the first time. I canned some albacore and yt and it came out great, and best part is it's easy and the actual prep doesn't take much time. There is a great thread on BD about it too but I don't feel like digging for it right now. I am borrowing heavily on that thread for this writeup, along with the canners instructions, and various google searches I did for canning fish.

Canning fish has some advantages over other storage methods. The fish once canned can be kept at room temperature, so it frees up freezer space. The fish is already seasoned and "cooked" and ready to go. The fish also lasts indefinitely, no freezer burn. For those like me that can only go albacore fishing a few times a year this is a great way to enjoy the catch year round.

Equipment needed:
Canner, basically a big pressure cooker. Cheap ~$60 for a smallish one.
Mason Jars, cheap, reusable except for the top. 1/2 pints are 12 for $6.
Fish
Spices, canned jalapenos, homemade seasoning, salsa, whatever goes good with fish.

Here is what I do. I am not an expert, I have only done this a few times but it worked for me...

I cut up raw fish. Stuff the fish into the jars. Widemouth jars are a bonus. Stuff fish into the jars until almost full. 1/2 pint jars seem to be a good size. Pint jars and bigger just seem like too big a serving of fish to open at once.

Add spices on top of the fish. I took a suggestion from the BD thread and used diced canned jalapenos for convenience. I also added some diced serrano peppers to some, Dave's insanity sauce to some jars and other variations. I'm still new at this and experimenting. I noticed the first time I did this that in the canning process the jalapenos lose their spiciness. Garlic, salt, pepper, cayenne pepper, or whatever else are all good ideas too. Plain comes out good too, but tastes just like plain tuna out of a commercial can.

Here are some jars ready to be capped along with the jalapenos I use in the foreground:
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Some people say to add DI water to cover the fish in liquid, some don't. Some say to use olive oil or something else in the jar too. I have used water before and it came out fine. This time I am trying it without water as the fish has enough water and juice to cover itself in the cooking process.


Wipe the lips of the jars clean so they can get a good seal in the canner. I use a wet paper towel. The lids for the jars can only be used once. Add the lids and screw the ring on the jars, not tight, but snug. Load the canner. Do not put jars directly on the bottom of the canner. The second layer of jars can be stacked directly on the first, or a rack can be used.

Add water to the canner so the bottom layer of jars are about 3/4 submerged. Close up and put on the stove on high without the pressure ball on top. When steam starts coming out the vent, wait a few minutes and add the pressure ball. I have used 15 pounds of pressure on the ball, but have read of success with other settings. When up to pressure and the ball starts rocking, I let it cook for 90 minutes.

the loaded canner:
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After 90 minutes I turn the heat off and wait for the pressure to equalize to open the canner. I take the jars out when still hot and leave them on the counter. They should start to ping or pop, signaling they are sealing. After they are all done I tap on the top of all of the jars to make sure they sealed. The ones that sound different didn't seal. They need to be refrigerated and eaten within a couple days. The ones that sealed can be kept for a long time. When cool I retighten all the rings to make sure the jars stay sealed.

Here is a finished one from tonight:
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The finished product can look kind of disgusting, but it really is good. My favorite ways of eating the finished product is to drain out the liquid and mix with mayo for a sandwich, or to add the fish ontop of a salad, or to mix with salsa and use as a dip with chips.

The big fear I had in canning the first time last year was it is something that mandates being done in large batches, and I didn't want to screw up most of my albacore catch in one botched canning. I didn't. It really is easy and better than store bought canned tuna. I have also canned yt and it came out great. I want to try a single jar of wsb just to see, but I haven't caught one of those since last year.

If anyone has any suggestions on canning, or any recipes post up.

dgax65 06-30-2008 09:56 PM

I'd like to try canning fish sometime. Tuna in olive oil is a classic canning method in Italy. I would try tuna with roasted garlic, red peppers and herbes de Provence.

madscientist 06-30-2008 10:31 PM

Tyler, how much do you charge? :D

Looks good. Should have told me you wanted to try WSB. ;)

Any way we can do it at camp next trip? Give us something to do besides (edit: while) drinking.:cheers1:

tylerdurden 06-30-2008 10:52 PM

Actually I never thought of doing it while camping and didn't think of wsb until tonights round. It wouldn't be too tough to do while camping. A propane burner for a turkey fryer would be a must as it needs to be at pressure for 90 minutes unbroken, plus the 30 or so minutes it takes to get to a boil and pressurize.

Doug, from my limited experience I don't think olive oil is necessary as tuna and yt have enough oil in them already. I did try one jar with oil last year and it was no better than with water. I like your classic ingredient list. I'll try that one this weekend if all goes well tuna fishing.

And for all the text above it is as simple as adding fish and seasoning into a jar and putting it into a pressure cooker or canner for the desired time.

bajadog 07-01-2008 04:17 AM

Right on....Tyler.

I canned about 10 half pints of my albie Sunday.

Used pesto in a few, and sun dried tomatoes in a few.

Tasty stuff.:cheers1:

tylerdurden 07-01-2008 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bajadog (Post 26206)
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Used pesto in a few ...

That sounds like a good idea too. I hope I can try that out soon. I am trying to can a variety of different ways so it doesn't all come out tasting the same. It would get boring eating jalapeno canned tuna for 6 months.

aguachico 07-01-2008 06:33 AM

Good job Ty. The albies are chewing up the line. Your place can be 'canning central".

Handymansd 07-01-2008 07:15 AM

Awesome Tyler! Thanks for the information and courage to do this myself.:luxhello:I will have to do that next year with all that Thresher that filled my freezer this year. MMMM.... some roasted garlic, sun dried tomatoes, and topped with just a drop of liquid smoke... Man I'm hungry.:drool5:

tylerdurden 07-01-2008 07:45 AM

Chuck, I don't know if I would do thresher shark. Maybe do a test can first so you don't waste it if it doesn't work. Shark is something that doesn't seem like it would can well to me, but I am just guessing and haven't tried it myself. If you try it let us know how it comes out, good or bad.

edit>
Just thinking about it I would guess shark would need some olive oil. Maybe do a few test cans with different ingredients to try and find if one works.

steamroll 07-01-2008 08:13 AM

Right on Tyler. This was a cool read!

Dan 07-01-2008 08:20 AM

old school! :luxhello:

are you from the midwest?! :farmer:

Useful Idiot 07-01-2008 08:34 AM

Where'd you get the canner from? Can I use my g/f's pressure cooker?

That's something I've wanted to try as well.

lamb 07-01-2008 08:34 AM

Very cool Tyler!

I've got to try it... I guess I need to catch some fish first. :o

bajadog 07-01-2008 08:35 AM

I think thresher has a lower fat content in the meat than tuna (sorry for the obvious here). You might need to add some fat to the jars (a couple of table spoons of olive oil).:D

tylerdurden 07-01-2008 08:48 AM

Brian, you can use any pressure cooker as long as it is high enough pressure. I think some guys cook them at 10 pounds instead of 15 like I do. I don't know what difference it makes. The big pressure cookers are sold specifically as "pressure canners." A small one just can't fit that many jars and are mainly used just for cooking. You just have to make sure there is a small metal rack or something on the bottom so the jars are not right on the bottom of the canner or they will supposedly crack.

I absolutely hate walmart, but they carry canners and jars. About the only place I know to get the jars in SD. Not all walmarts even carry the canning jars and lids. I know the one on Aero drive did last year, and the one off the 805 in Clairemont has the stuff. The one near lemon grove did not have the canning equipment as of last year. If anyone knows a better place to get supplies post up. I am sure you can get stuff online, but I am too impulsive and hate the wait when I have fresh fish.

dorf 07-01-2008 08:54 AM

Very cool. :you_rock:
I'm printing this page.
Now all I need is to catch some fish.
Can't can SKUNK.

Zed 07-01-2008 08:55 AM

Nice!

From last season, I seal-a-mealed all the prime loins of albacore and rossman canned all the end pieces. Ended up with 58 cans of albacore for the year. Just water salt and albacore.

I don't know if I'd can thresher or any shark. That urea/uric acid may not end up well in the can/jar. Try like tyler said and do some test jars w/ various ingredients. But don't ask me to guinea pig it. Ha.

Midwest? So what? :the_finger:

tylerdurden 07-01-2008 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zed (Post 26244)
Nice!

From last season, I seal-a-mealed all the prime loins of albacore and rossman canned all the end pieces...

Midwest? So what? :the_finger:

That is another bonus of canning. The end pieces that aren't really good for the bbq or much else work great. Even if you butcher the fish instead of get nice filets it doesn't matter. You just hack up your nice filets anyway and stuff them in the jar. Just make sure to trim out all the dark bloodline meat and bones and it's good to go.

I ain't from the midwest. I'm from SD. All you midwest people should go home lol . Thanks to the rednecks for teaching us to preserve food though :farmer: .

Corey 07-01-2008 09:48 AM

Used to can veggies & fruits from the garden w/ my mom & grandma as a kid. Thanks for posting this up.

I used to have a customer in Sunset Beach that would always bring me home canned albacore w/ jalapenos. It made the best tuna salad. Next batch of Albie I get, I thnk I'll can some.

Now I gotta go get ready to go back to the midwest.:D

Dan 07-01-2008 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey (Post 26251)
Now I gotta go get ready to go back to the midwest.:D

Don't forget to bring your Geraniums into the basement for winter!

hha ah ah ahahah

kurt 07-01-2008 03:35 PM

Quote:

All you midwest people should go home
I always thought you native Californians should be forced to live in the Midwest for a winter so you learn to really, really appreciate it out here. :farmer::the_finger:

esdees 07-01-2008 04:25 PM

Nice post Tyler.

When I did this, I personally did not care for the cans with oil. Using water turned out a lot better IMO. For those who decide to give it a try, make sure you do it right. You need the pressure, heat, and time to kill off everything for long term storage. Eating improperly canned items after storing them for a while can be deadly.


Now where's my fish, Tyler?

Handymansd 07-01-2008 06:58 PM

I will not bring home any t's til next year but I will experiment with small amounts then.

Thanks for the thoughts guys.

John M 07-01-2008 07:57 PM

Tyler
Smart and Final also sells canning supplies.
I usually just do albacore with a fresh jalepeno cut into 1/4" thick pieces, kosher salt and bottled water.
Have done some with habenros, may be too hot for some but very tasty.
The cooking does mellow the heat of the peppers.
Have tried garlic but was not happy with that and I like garlic.
I use the pint jars for the fresh and 1/2 pint for smoked. If you do some smoked do not cook too long in smoker as canning will intensify the flavor and dry out too much.
I usually make tuna fish sandwiches with it. For a real treat get some good sour dough bread, sharp chedder, some red onions and make tuna melts. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
I also like to mix a pint of jalapeno with a 1/2 pint of smoked. Gives a light smoke flavor to the hole mix.
I started out with a small cooker that only did 8 pints at a time. Have since bought a larger cooker that will handle 16 pints. Now do both at the same time to increase production for time spent. Seems to take about 4 hours from start to finish, so it is nice to have a greater number done for the same amount of time.
My canner recomends to cook for 100 min after it has reached 10lbs. If you fall below the 10lbs you have to start the time all over.
It really is a great way to save your catch for later in the year. Usually have enough to have some all year long.
There used to be a business in Ramona that sells canning supplies. They were very helpful and willing to answer phone questions. I don't know if they are still in business.

John

Spinal Tap 07-01-2008 08:24 PM

I remember you talking about this last time I saw you on the water.

I've wanted to try that process on abalone. A buddy of mine says he does it and it comes out good. He just cuts chunks to fit a jar and says the results are very good. The abalone is very tender and it has an intense flavor of the sea. Next time my friends bring abalone down, I'll contact you.

I found jars at the big Albertsons on the Southeast corner of Balboa and highway 805.

dgax65 07-02-2008 08:16 PM

Thanks to Tyler, now I want to go buy a pressure canner.

Here are some useful canning resources.

U of Alaska-Fairbanks guide to fish canning

Fish canning guide from Sportfishing Canada

http://www.freshpreserving.com/pages/home/1.php

I got some seasoning ideas from G'day Gourmet - Australian Savory Canned Tuna. Curry, lemon pepper, chili, tomato-basil, tomato-onion, tomato salsa; all sound good. I'd like to try some tuna with Sriracha Sambal Oelek or a chili garlic sauce. I think an oily fish like bonito might be a good candidate for canning. I'd even be willing to try mackerel in a hot mustard sauce.

Here's one for canning smoked salmon: http://www.outdoorsdirectory.com/akf...hing/26566.htm

LeeQ125 07-04-2008 06:16 AM

pressure differences?
 
I have my grandma's "Freezing & Canning cookbook" from 1963, all of the meats listed are at 10 pounds of pressure. Some variations in time depending on what you're cooking and jar size, but it's only a 10 minute difference. No fish canning going on in that book, just fish freezing and curing.

No, I am not from the mid-west. The south, yes.

Lee

dmr 07-04-2008 10:35 PM

Cool post Tyler. My Grandparents used to can fish all the time. I've got a multi-day trip coming up. I hope to can the results.

T-Rex 07-15-2008 07:49 PM

Great write up Tyler.

The wife used to can jams and jellies years ago and we've still got lots of mason jars in the garage. Can't wait to give it a try!

tylerdurden 07-16-2008 07:33 AM

Okay the results are in on the last batch of canned fish.

The yt, fire roasted diced jalapenos, kosher salt, pepper, and Daves Insanity Hotsauce came out pretty good. Still not as spicy as I would have liked, but there is some kick to it. Time to try habaneros next time. Goes great with mayo on toasted bread.

Albacore went well with the same ingredients.

BFT, oh wait I ate that one as sashimi :D .

YFT is supposed to can very well too, I just need some to try it out on.

I got another idea though, gonna try adding wasabi to a can and see what happens. That should add some kick.

Siebler 07-16-2008 11:26 AM

Bonito cans VERY WELL. Ends up tasting better than albies IMO. Just bleed them out and get on ice. Clean them like albacore, peeling the skin and loin out.

bajadog 07-16-2008 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassboyc (Post 26751)
Bonito cans VERY WELL. Ends up tasting better than albies IMO. Just bleed them out and get on ice. Clean them like albacore, peeling the skin and loin out.

+1 On the canned bonito.

I had some poke on a long range trip, and asked the cook if it was blue fin.
He said it was the bonies that we had caught on the troll that morning.

It was awesome.

Siebler 07-16-2008 11:47 AM

Ive had a lot of that reaction. We always grilled bonito on the boats. I always liked a nice bonito steak on a hamburger bun with a little mayo lettuce and tomato. Killer.

john p. 07-19-2008 07:53 AM

Thanks for all the info. I have I guess the small one, probably a 7 qt.
I would like to try it with that one, but there is no gauge on it to read what the pressure is. Can tell by how fast the top is rocking back and forth? The pressure cooker is great for other things as well, artichokes are really good in it and you can add spices etc. Roasts, whole chicken, pork chops and more. I have 6 days on a L.A. Bay Tony Reyes trip followed by an albacore trip when I get back. Hopefully I'll need to do some canning:sifone:

bajadog 07-19-2008 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john p. (Post 26828)
I have 6 days on a L.A. Bay Tony Reyes trip followed by an albacore trip when I get back. Hopefully I'll need to do some canning:sifone:

Good luck John.:D:yt:

I did a Reyes trip last September. We did real good on the forkies, and had
pretty cabrilla, and grouper results too. Some guys even scratch a few golden groupers.

Marco

Handymansd 07-19-2008 10:26 AM

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/zip/761344955.html

john p. 07-19-2008 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bajadog (Post 26834)
Good luck John.:D:yt:

I did a Reyes trip last September. We did real good on the forkies, and had
pretty cabrilla, and grouper results too. Some guys even scratch a few golden groupers.

Marco

Thanks Bajadog, We did one two years ago on the Angelina Celine.
Not the best operation and no longer running,but despite that still had a great time. I had one golden grouper last time, but The Capton said it had to be released due to some sort of superstition. We had lots of :yt: too many Humboldts. Cabrilla, Pargo and I caught 2 bsb on that trip. A lot of fishing time on these trips and a lot of bang for your buck. Website states they also have 6 kayaks aboard. Sorry to ramble on your canning thread Tyler:D


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