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Oxbeast1210 12-19-2014 06:04 PM

Fishfinder help
 
Im trying to decide on which of the following fishfinders to get. I did some research and am more confused then ever. I'm debating between the following:

Lowrance HDS 5 or 7
and
raymarine dragonfly 5.6 or 7

I have a PA12 and will be fishing La jolla and the Bays

Tell me which one gets your vote and if there is anything I should take into consideration . Also if you have the dragonfly how do you like it?

thanks
Oscar:reel::reel:

tacmik 12-19-2014 06:06 PM

dragon fly

danjor 12-19-2014 06:16 PM

I personally have a HDS 7 and it is great. But personlly I'd like to switch to a dragonfly 7 due to the structure scan which cost too much to add to lowrance...

tsugg 12-19-2014 06:24 PM

Dragonfly. It's like watching the fish bite your lure!!!
My lowrance freaks out in 4' of bay water covered with grass.
Dragonfly shows the fish in the grass!

TJones 12-19-2014 07:47 PM

Check out the new
 
Hds gen 3 . They are just releasing info at manufacturers website . Not available in stores yet . Lowrance products work well with the new hobies .

cell128 12-20-2014 05:52 AM

I got a elite hdi4 in hull mount on non Lawrence ready outback.... Would it make a big difference if the ducer was In the water as far as picture clarity? I always have a hard time reading it in 150+ ft depth....anyone else experience this or should I tinker with the settings. What's a good setup for u if u have this unit?

Bert Vega 12-20-2014 06:21 AM

I love my hds 7. Went thru this same thing just a little while ago. The only flaw I see with the dragon fly. Is it has no adjustability turn on and go.

Bert Vega 12-20-2014 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cell128 (Post 213790)
I got a elite hdi4 in hull mount on non Lawrence ready outback.... Would it make a big difference if the ducer was In the water as far as picture clarity? I always have a hard time reading it in 150+ ft depth....anyone else experience this or should I tinker with the settings. What's a good setup for u if u have this unit?

It will make a big difference. Had a elite 5 in the hull. Now have lowrance ready. Night and day difference between the two.

cell128 12-20-2014 06:29 AM

Damn...I thought I was crazy.....I might try a over the side pvc setup or through scupper hole....unless I sell the outback and upgrade to one with duxer ready mount...thanks for the tip

octico 12-20-2014 06:46 AM

I have the DragonFly 5.6 ... what a difference from my old Elite-4. I would be sitting next to folks and they would be telling the was structure underneath, I saw nothing. The DragonFly is amazing no configuration, just plug it in and go. I can see structure in 200 ft of water where before I was not able to.

danjor 12-20-2014 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJones (Post 213783)
Hds gen 3 . They are just releasing info at manufacturers website . Not available in stores yet . Lowrance products work well with the new hobies .

Oooo I just looked up the gen 3. I think I might sell my gen 2 and grab a gen 3 when they come out. Just where to put all 3 transducers on a pro angler 14. Guess you could do the thru hull chirp and broadband and put the big structure scan just on the bottom where the cart won't hit it. Anyone want to buy a HDS7 gen 2

YakDout 12-20-2014 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bert Vega (Post 213792)
It will make a big difference. Had a elite 5 in the hull. Now have lowrance ready. Night and day difference between the two.


I second that. Big difference. Plus temp readings help.

YakDout 12-20-2014 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danjor (Post 213797)
Oooo I just looked up the gen 3. I think I might sell my gen 2 and grab a gen 3 when they come out. Just where to put all 3 transducers on a pro angler 14. Guess you could do the thru hull chirp and broadband and put the big structure scan just on the bottom where the cart won't hit it. Anyone want to buy a HDS7 gen 2


That new gen 3 looks sweet but over 1k? That's some serious coin.

cell128 12-20-2014 07:58 AM

Thanks guys. Gonna rig something up

Oxbeast1210 12-20-2014 08:11 AM

The GEn 3 does look sweet but out of my budget for now.

thanks for the input everyone i'm leaning towards the dragonfly 7

TJones 12-20-2014 08:54 AM

Don't quote me on this
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danjor (Post 213797)
Oooo I just looked up the gen 3. I think I might sell my gen 2 and grab a gen 3 when they come out. Just where to put all 3 transducers on a pro angler 14. Guess you could do the thru hull chirp and broadband and put the big structure scan just on the bottom where the cart won't hit it. Anyone want to buy a HDS7 gen 2

If you click on the package deals it shows the standard transducers . 83 and 50 kHz. It's one transducer and the structure scan lss2 . P.s. If you figure out a way to mount the Lss 2 , let me know please .

danjor 12-20-2014 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJones (Post 213802)
If you click on the package deals it shows the standard transducers . 83 and 50 kHz. It's one transducer and the structure scan lss2 . P.s. If you figure out a way to mount the Lss 2 , let me know please .

I haven't seen the lss2 in person but knowing the size if you were to use 2 thru hull one for chirp and one for broadband on the two flat sides adjacent to the lowrance ready area on the pro angler and put the lss2 in the middle and route the cable up thru the lowrance ready area that would work, just would have be careful with the big transducer there. And to the people thinking were crazy trying to put all these expensive electronics on our yaks, its still cheaper to have a yak than a boat :D

TJones 12-20-2014 09:59 AM

To work properly
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danjor (Post 213805)
I haven't seen the lss2 in person but knowing the size if you were to use 2 thru hull one for chirp and one for broadband on the two flat sides adjacent to the lowrance ready area on the pro angler and put the lss2 in the middle and route the cable up thru the lowrance ready area that would work, just would have be careful with the big transducer there. And to the people thinking were crazy trying to put all these expensive electronics on our yaks, its still cheaper to have a yak than a boat :D

Structure scan or down scan transducers ( including the lss 2 )need to be in the water .

danjor 12-20-2014 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJones (Post 213808)
Structure scan or down scan transducers ( including the lss 2 )need to be in the water .

I know I said put it on the bottom of the boat, aka goop it to the bottom hull the side that is i t the water not inside the yak and put the wire up threw the scupper of the lowrance ready area.

Oxbeast1210 12-20-2014 11:23 AM

Well my wife caught me researching the two fish finders and said to stop looking because she already got me one of them. she wont tell me which brand but said its a 7 inch screen.

Oxbeast1210 12-20-2014 11:36 AM

its the Dragonfly 7

danjor 12-20-2014 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxbeast1210 (Post 213813)
its the Dragonfly 7

You are one lucky guy!

cell128 12-20-2014 12:32 PM

Does she have a sister? ;)

TJones 12-20-2014 03:10 PM

Will she go for it?
 
If you upgrade in March when they release the new one.:luxhello:

Oxbeast1210 12-22-2014 12:36 PM

Looks like there is a dragonfly 4 now...
http://www.basspro.com/Raymarine-Dra...ct/1409151346/

Oxbeast1210 12-22-2014 12:38 PM

Looks like it can stream the sonar to your phone..... seems like a cool concept

momo fish 12-22-2014 01:14 PM

Wow!! Almost half the cost of the 5 inch model and has chirp!! Now that's awesome.

Something seems odd that 4.3 inch compared to 5 inch is that big a price difference. Am I missing something?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxbeast1210 (Post 213977)
Looks like there is a dragonfly 4 now...

http://www.basspro.com/Raymarine-Dra...ct/1409151346/


Oxbeast1210 12-22-2014 01:32 PM

I wonder how good that streaming is?

octico 12-22-2014 03:27 PM

I would go with the new DragonFly 5 it looks like they kept the knob on thew new 7. The knob does get annoying at times.

tsugg 12-22-2014 05:26 PM

Wow! Merry Christmas!🎅

tamddo714 12-22-2014 06:46 PM

What's the catch with the new dragonfly 4? Does It come with a transducer?


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Siebler 12-23-2014 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxbeast1210 (Post 213982)
I wonder how good that streaming is?

I've used both the RayViewer and RayRemote apps for my A98 and it works great. Pretty much instantaneous feed to phone. Its awesome.

cell128 12-25-2014 06:18 PM

Itching to upgrade outback to Lawrence ready model now :(

TJones 12-25-2014 07:07 PM

How are guys mounting transducer ?
 
With hobie lowrance ready?

TJones 12-25-2014 07:12 PM

Itching to upgrade seat also ? (If you go new)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cell128 (Post 214220)
Itching to upgrade outback to Lawrence ready model now :(

Hefty price jump . Maybe I will trade over the water with Mo ? :rolleyes:

cell128 12-25-2014 07:15 PM

I figure I could sell mine for around 1100-1300 and pick one up a few hundred more? I really don't wanna hang a pvc over the side for transducer. Any ideas how to stick it in the water any other way?

TJones 12-25-2014 07:30 PM

I got tired of Mickey mouse installs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cell128 (Post 214223)
I figure I could sell mine for around 1100-1300 and pick one up a few hundred more? I really don't wanna hang a pvc over the side for transducer. Any ideas how to stick it in the water any other way?

So I grabbed a 2014 model early in year . There is one other method that works well. Lowrance sells mount that slides through scupper hole in back of yak . Transducer will be in water exposed slightly under yak . Of course you will negate one of the best features of the hobies , which is the add on bait tank with rod holders .

cell128 12-25-2014 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJones (Post 214226)
So I grabbed a 2014 model early in year . There is one other method that works well. Lowrance sells mount that slides through scupper hole in back of yak . Transducer will be in water exposed slightly under yak . Of course you will negate one of the best features of the hobies , which is the add on bait tank with rod holders .

Nice! I didn't know about this...will look for it. U have a link? I use the dog food bait tank so don't need scupper hole other than for cart

cell128 12-25-2014 07:43 PM

I found this one. Would it work? Lowrance 000-10606-001 Kayak Scupper Mount for "Skimmer" Type Transducers https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0067MUZQY..._lCoNub0SSXGRD

tamddo714 12-25-2014 08:24 PM

if you dont want to run a transducer arm. there was a guy who ran the transducer through the seat scupper on an outback.


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