Originally Posted by The pelican (Post 216855)

The old "on your own vs. hire a guide" dabate. If you're referring clients for a day on the water kayak fishing, case closed. Hire a good guide - THEDARKHORSE.

For the rest of us it's a personal choice. I kayak fished for 4 years on my own and learned very little, very slowly without much of any help whatsoever (wasn't even aware of BWE and never talked to other kayak anglers because I launched and fished from birdrock area and didnt even know there was a launch in LJ.)

I lucked out a few times and admit it did feel much more rewarding when I would land the very occasional gamefsh on my own. You know what they say - even a broken clock is right twice a day. But I also made some mistakes (panicking when I caught my first BSB and not knowing how to get him quickly safely released, which was a close call but worked out)

Fellow BWE guys helped when I discovered LJ and hooked up but didn't come prepared with a gaff or game clip. The guys at El Pescador accepted a case of beer in exchange for yellowtail fillet help. All that was great and I'm glad it was part of my expirience.

Eventually I decided it's best to learn from the best. I paid to hire Josh and it was an unreal value for me, relative to the price he charges (time saved, number of fish caught, knowledge gained, money saved buying the right gear).

I'm convinced that it's more rewarding to struggle and then finally get what you're after in just about anything you do in life. If you're looking for a rewarding expirience, do it on your own for a while.

If you're looking to learn a ton of priceless fishing info, save time, save money, catch fish consistently, and shut up and follow instructions, Josh is the guy.

Originally Posted by TJones (Post 216873)

The picture he supplies you with holding a trophy fish will be priceless . Look at all happy faces on fish porn Friday .

Originally Posted by PapaDave (Post 216875)

What is involved with being a guide? License, insurance and such...

I might be interested, not an expert in LJ but Dana Point and O'Side I am very familiar with.

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 216881)

If you're looking for a quick fix call the drug dealer:call:

If you have patience like me, cultivate your own drugs:sifone:

Originally Posted by Mobyfish (Post 216868)

2. Long story short, I'm working with a tour operator software platform. Huge number of kayak fishing clients in the system and no guides to refer them to. I need a lot of guides. So if you know any or know guys who want to do some guiding, please let me know.

-Mobyfish

Originally Posted by Bert Vega (Post 216886)

Nobody wants sh-wag :sifone:

And dont you have help from more experienced growers :D

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 216881)

If you're looking for a quick fix call the drug dealer:call:

If you have patience like me, cultivate your own drugs:sifone:

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr (Post 216894)

I love the consistency of my drug dealer. I'm addicted... and occasional isn't good enough. :D


You could be kayak fishing for 10 years and would probably only know half of what Josh teaches. Sure you can teach yourself... but some things he has taught me would be pretty close to impossible to figure out on your own.

I don't see a reason to downplay Kevin and Josh's business... but feel free to enlighten me

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr (Post 216894)

I love the consistency of my drug dealer. I'm addicted... and occasional isn't good enough. :D


You could be kayak fishing for 10 years and would probably only know half of what Josh teaches. Sure you can teach yourself... but some things he has taught me would be pretty close to impossible to figure out on your own.

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 216898)

Perhaps you can enlighten me by telling me how exactly I downplayed two people whose names I never mentioned

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 216881)

If you're looking for a quick fix call the drug dealer:call:

If you have patience like me, cultivate your own drugs:sifone:

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 216893)

Nope[/QUO


Are you saying you learned everything yourself?

Greg,Tony,Jim, and the rest were useless to you? Really?

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr (Post 216905)

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr (Post 216905)

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.